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  #141  
Old 01-21-2008, 09:14 PM
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What is happening to Pichardo is that he is Dominican and the reality of things in his country bother him to the point that he brings inaccurate information

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to justify the inefficiency of Codetel.

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I have been living part of my time in the D.R in Casa de Campo for almost 15 years and ..... i have to say every time a Dominican tells me ..... how wonderful and modern is there telephone system my blood boils ....

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he knows but always nationalism is more powerful than rationalism.
Kemo, you tell it like it is !
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:31 PM
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Kemo, you tell it like it is !
Hmmm.... So now I feel bothered by the inefficiencies of Codetel in the DR?? LOL!! I was born in the DR; therefore I'm just as ok with poor service and lack thereof, than getting mad on a particular issue that only bothers non-Dominicans... LOL!!!

When you know what you pay and what you get are two separated things, you know better. The issue in my post (if a person took the time to read as it's intended) deals with the TECHNOLOGY deployed NATION WIDE, not quality of services; again one must use a distinctive set of rulers to know how to differentiate one another...

Not one single country in LA currently owns better technology NATION WIDE as the DR does in the tele-communications sector, period.

It's sad that "some" need to use nationality or labels to defend an unsustainable point with lack of support.

But again, one must level with equal knowledge on both sides of the argument...
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:45 PM
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Picardo, if you cannot make technology work, it is no use to man or beast .. and braggin' about it is completely uhm ... well, I don't want to say dumb, and I don't want to say stupid. An old saying .. you remind me of 'a solution looking for an application'. That is why we had the dot com bubble you know. There were very many solutions, just very few marketable applications.
You can tell me you have the greatest, sweetest, most magical piece of technology in your hands, and it is deployed all over the DR, and I won't believe you, until I see people using it and benefitting from it and .. paying for it ...
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:18 PM
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Hmmm.... So now I feel bothered by the inefficiencies of Codetel in the DR?? LOL!! I was born in the DR; therefore I'm just as ok with poor service and lack thereof, than getting mad on a particular issue that only bothers non-Dominicans... LOL!!!

When you know what you pay and what you get are two separated things, you know better. The issue in my post (if a person took the time to read as it's intended) deals with the TECHNOLOGY deployed NATION WIDE, not quality of services; again one must use a distinctive set of rulers to know how to differentiate one another...

Not one single country in LA currently owns better technology NATION WIDE as the DR does in the tele-communications sector, period.


If you are really an engineer i have friend Engineers in Centennial here in puerto rico that work on your network over there they will laugh of how outdated ITT Systems from the 1970's they had for national interconnection i also know very well in casa de campo some of the top Engineers from Codetel maybe they could clarify it for me once again!!!!!! stop dreaming!!!!!!! I love the dominican republic but don't insult the intelligence of the forumers here.

It's sad that "some" need to use nationality or labels to defend an unsustainable point with lack of support.

But again, one must level with equal knowledge on both sides of the argument...

This is complete Bull********* you do not see reality the best in L.A Brasil, Mexico, Chile, Argentina, Panama are very much more advance that the D.R And not to mention Puerto rico Speednet.com global stats puts Puerto rico with the Highest Broadband Speeds in Latin America and the second in the Hemisphere after the U.S.


You like to talk figures let's talk:

DR: Highest recorded Average Speed 745 KPBS ( Average)
Highest recent recorded Speed 1.2 MB In la Romana so far 2008


Puerto Rico Highest recorded Average Speed 3 911 KPBS 3.9 MB ( Average)
Highest Recent Recorded Speed 14 251 KPBS 14.2 MB

You say those speeds are only in San Juan Or Ponce or the Biggest cities

THe Island of Vieques which is an oversees municipality Recorded 1.9 MB today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is the most remote there is????????


I want to also point out what the Cia Factbook says about the telecomunications of the D.R


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Dominican Republic

Relatively efficient system based on Micro-wave radio relay networks

Available fixed lines: 897,000 (2007)

DR Population : 9,365.818

You want to come out with the %%%%%%


Puerto Rico

Modern System Integrated with the U.S by High Capacity Submarine Cable and Interlsat with high speed data capacity

Available fixed lines 1,038,000 (2005)

Puerto rico Population: 3,944,259

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You also could go into wired.com: or FDI.Com or the World Bank

Puerto rico has almost 1000% more internet Penetration as well as the Highest number of subscribers per capita for Broadband and DSL in Latin america.

Also go to Grupocarso.com or Americamovil.com and there you will read the precentage of Fiberoptics in Puerto rico as well which is the most advance system in Latin America.

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Old 01-21-2008, 10:20 PM
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That has been the problem practically with every technology or system in use in the DR, lack of services, use, pricing, etc...

It seems that the set of rules used are to test how far they can stretch it before people do something about it...

There's no bragging (well, sort of) but actual truth in the statement. One must read carefully the intended message to argue a basic point...

Nowhere do I intend to argue on any basis that the DR offers better services than any country in LA. In that regard I sustain the point that the technology employed is far better and cover the entire territory as much as possible as any best serviced Metro City of LA...

One can own the famous Veyron that could break any car's speed in a matter of seconds, but it would tear itself apart in the process (rip the tires to shreds). The analogy is that the car is the fastest out there, but is not constant to keep it.

The DR does own the best national wide trunk system in LA, the fact that service feels like you were using a pair of tin cans and a chord to talk is another thing...

Facts are facts, not BS is given by it. I understand anybody's blood boiling over the services issue, but still that doesn't mean the facts are evidently proved...

Come to think about it, customer service in the DR is an alien notion to this day. Many big corporations still can't comprehend that if you offer quality services, you'll get repeat customers and loyal branding...
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:25 PM
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Kemo: Out of those available fixed lines 1,038,000 (2005) do you know how many are still connected via copper to the telco??? I guess not... try 85%...

Like I said, it looks good on print, another in principle out there...

Just the same...
We're not arguing the quantity of the water in the vessel, but the technology that holds the water as the vessel... Not the quality and taste, but the vessel... Not the color or weight, but vessel...

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Old 01-21-2008, 10:39 PM
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Kemo: Out of those available fixed lines 1,038,000 (2005) do you know how many are still connected via copper to the telco??? I guess not... try 85%...

Like I said, it looks good on print, another in principle out there...

Just the same...
We're not arguing the quantity of the water in the vessel, but the technology that holds the water as the vessel... Not the quality and taste, but the vessel... Not the color or weight, but vessel...
Once again iwww.telefonicapr.com will clearly point out date by date how much Fiberoptic our system has as the website says closed to 95% of all the troncal Or main lines systems are FO and 100% of the remotos are updated with Nortel 100% all digital switchboards for high capacity. Also in the website of grupo carso it also says PRT system most advance in latin America. But i will get you more detail info and links!!!!!!! Also Centennial has there own wireline system parallel to PRT as well as Onelink, Liberty, choice offering HDT, Digital cable with way more channels that Telecable or Tricom or Spielcom or Cable.net there is no exit D.R has a 3erd worll system
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:45 PM
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So what pichardo is saying is that the system of codetel is like a Ferrari enzo Formula racer 2008 supercharge running in a highway 20MPH

And in Puerto rico we are riding a Mustang 1965 at 200 MPH LOL

I clearly does not make sense this is very far from reality
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Old 01-21-2008, 11:03 PM
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Believe it in the DR!

The trunk is not yet OC in PR, I know so because I work with the main supplier to LA via the procurement dept. They're still having problems with primary parity switches on the Metro areas. Each of the other providers you named, are not offering nation wide services other than some swats of Metro and urban PR...

The dates I posted in the earlier posts are the actual dates when full FO/OC trunks will be operating 100% in PR. Nortel is not the one doing the work there for the incumbent telco; they only supply the replacements for the copper units in TOS notice. Also most of that contract is aimed at biz networks so far...

Puerto Rico is connected via USA to the FO link of the WWW, as such as soon as the US east board swells with traffic, PR suffers congestion on their servers. Main reason why not many companies are basing their redundancy there, given that its tax heaven for corporations in development empowered areas...

It makes little sense to the outsider looking in, but it's just the norm for the insider that lives it...

It’s like having the cake; you can have it or eat it, but not both at the same time. LOL!!!
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Old 01-21-2008, 11:51 PM
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I'm curious, what Codetel internet service do you have that you pay US$130 for? Here is a list of all the plans currently offered by codetel:

Plan Avanzado 2 de Internet Flash Residencias
Velocidad: 1.5MB/768kbps
Renta : RD$2,850.00 (sin impuestos incluidos)


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With taxes, RD3600 or US110 - thanks
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