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Old 12-30-2008, 07:31 AM
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Default Parallell seems more of the correct way

With a larger size DC pump, as JD pointed out, you will have no problem with back washing and vacuuming.

If you have a large battery reserve you will not see a difference when the sun goes behind clouds. Because I wanted to go all solar I had a 450 amps @48 volts, single string.

I changed my 1hp pump to a 1.5hp pump (AC) and had more than enough power. I wanted to go DC but at the time no one knew where to get one.

The backwash shot the water across the street.
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Old 01-01-2009, 05:00 PM
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The reason I would want to run them in series rather than parallel is to obviate the need to manually switch over the valves.

If they are in series, that would allow me, for example, to run the electrical pump every night for a couple of hours on a timer AUTOMATICALLY to supplement the solar pump should it prove necessary.

The solar pump would not be working at night, and the timed electrical pump would not work during the day, so they would never both be working at the same time.

Of course, for this to work, both pumps would have to allow water to pass through when they are not working without creating significant resistance and without damaging themselves over time. Both these are iffy propositions, and I have recently been advised against the series installation due to just this long-term damage potential.

Sometimes I really wonder why it is that the world doesn't work the way my own logic tells me it should.

Ideally, I should be able to hook up two pumps in series, work one from solar, and spill the leftover energy (if any) into my home grid. This while maintaining the regular pump as an in-series redundant back-up. All the while setting it up cheaply enough so as to amortize within three to four years. That;s what my brain tells me. Now, to squeeze reality into that box...

As an aside, I would really like to know why there are no import exemptions or incentives on solar and wind technology in a country that cannot produce enough power for it;s population. ARRRRRRGH!!!!
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Old 01-01-2009, 05:37 PM
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Howdy!

I am looking to retrofit my pool (approx 14m x 5m and averages 1.5m deep (2m on the deep end, one on the shallow end) with a solar pump.

I have been told a lot of conflicting things from a lot of different people:

Solar will not give me enough circulation to keep my pool clean
Solar will not give me enough flow to backwash properly and might not give me enough flow to vacuum properly.
Solar will not amortize in any reasonable amount of time

Well, given my ridiculous power bill, I am thinking the system will pay for itself sooner rather than later.

With regards to circulation for backwashing and vacuuming, as I already have a "standard" pump, I was thinking of simply installing the solar parallel to the regular pump with valves -- voila! I use the regular pump for backwash and vacuuming, and the solar for regular use.

Thoughts?

Since the websites I have been looking at say the water has to be completely circulated at least once a day, what kind of flow are we talking about?

Also, can anyone recommend a decent solar pool pump? I will be bringing down a container so I can pick up just about anything sold in Canada. I tried talking to some alternative power companies in the DR, but was unconvinced -- sure, they sold the stuff, but couldn;t give me clear answers to my questions. I am not going to invest in a system only to have it not meet my needs.

Any help, as always, would be appreciated.
I installed a few of them on the North Coast, PM me for details.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:49 AM
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I have installed the solar powered pumps in Hawaii. I also installed a standard pump as well just in case it was needed. It has never been needed. obviously it will depend on what size your pool is and what your solar radiation is. If you want the solar pool pump to filter your pool it will work fine, but if you want it to work a waterfall or an automatic pool cleaner you have to accept what it will do one day it may not do the next day. The systems I install with a seperate pump for backup I plumb so that either the solar pump can be used, or the standard ac pump. I did not feel good about connecting the two pumps with only check valves. If you do not feel that you would have enough solar power to filter your pool properly all year round, you can purchase an ac power pack for the solar pump that will allow you to run the solar pump off the solar pv panels or ac power or a combination of both.
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