Hello and Goodbye - Page 4

AZB · #31 03-01-2004, 09:56 PM

DRgirlatheart, maybe we didn't make it quite clear to you so let me make it very simple.
All resort activity dept and waiting staff are all low life sankies. they are all uneducated, slimy liars especially when they tell a fatty how much they like a woman who is more than enough to hold on to. You might have come here once or twice but I have been coming to this country since 1985 as a young tourist and I have seen it all. I have yet to meet a classy sankie like Jose the "fake" sankie. You women can believe whatever you like to believe in but the truth is too bitter to swallow sometimes. These sankies are not in love with you and they are definitely not sincere in their friendships. You will always end up buying them something or bringing them gifts. There is no way a sankie can afford a Ralph lauren shirt when he makes 100 dollars a month. These sankies wear 70 dollar sneakers and often have expensive watches. How do you think they are able to dress like that? You guessed it, dumb girls like you bring them gifts. The fatter the chick the more expensive gift she buys for him.
So if you came here and had a wonderful time with the sankie, then take it for what it was worth and nothing more.
Have a nice day.
AZB (the DR1 resident sankie expert).

Lee-Lee · #32 03-01-2004, 10:30 PM

in reference to that last message by DRgirl@heart... hats off to that wonderful message you've sent across about your positive transformation, for both yourself and your husband, after getting some attention at the DR...

but frankly, nothing you say or do will change the permanently infected opinions of AZB and the others alike.... he is one of those men who thinks/was born into royalty, and thereby, disgards humans who do not possess the goods of financial freedom as slaves and inhumane, oftentime belittling their existence to rats and other savages. That IS more or less how he refers to anyone who is not rich and beautiful... they are dirt.

The double-standard philosophy he swears by makes me laugh..... ugly rich american/eruopean men can buy sex from young dominican female hoties...... but ugly rich american/european women cannot buy sex from young dominican male hotties. that IS what it boils down to....

I have seen his picture, and trust me, he ain't no sugar candy. And if it wasn't for his money and connections, those elite, sexy dominican ladies with those ever tight butts would be running from him... as fast as they could.

It sickens me at times to read all about his flashy connections in all the hotest discos... and all the nice cars and so on... get over it and try to be humble AZB.... some of us frankly don't care much about your sharmootas... and it is men such as yourself, who belittle all those who do not fit those 'social norms'..... men so small-minded that refer to overweight ladies and to their own economically deprived fellow citizens as dirt and low lives.... it is men such ay yourself, AZB, that every so often embarass me to be part of a human race that could be so cruel to one another.

Drgirl.... you're right. People should not be judged, and good for you for sharing that positive post with us. Although I believe the guy who started this thread is possibly a phony based on the inconsistency of his story, I agree with you that judging a book by its cover is not the right thing to do.

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DRgirlatheart · #33 03-01-2004, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AZB

These sankies are not in love with you and they are definitely not sincere in their friendships. You will always end up buying them something or bringing them gifts. There is no way a sankie can afford a Ralph lauren shirt when he makes 100 dollars a month. These sankies wear 70 dollar sneakers and often have expensive watches. How do you think they are able to dress like that? You guessed it, dumb girls like you bring them gifts. The fatter the chick the more expensive gift she buys for him.
So if you came here and had a wonderful time with the sankie, then take it for what it was worth and nothing more.

AZB, with all due respect,

I knew I'd be flamed, but I'm gonna go ahead and respond anyway.

Three things :
1) I don't remember ever mentioning that either one of us was in love with the other. He was cute and it was flattering, but love is not even in the picture, nor will it ever be - I have a husband who loves me through good and bad, thick and thin. Why would I give that up based on a week of flirtation? 2) You have no idea about what intelligence I may or may not have. For your information, I have 2 university degrees and have also studied in Europe on full scholarship (just to clear up the notion that I am dumb) and 3) I had a wonderful time flirting (and nothing more), it made me feel about 15 years younger, but I never said that I was thinking it was anything more than that.

Oh, and a fourth thing I am smart enough to have learned from my life... the size of a woman's heart is what matters most, not the size of any part of her anatomy. And, you know what, that goes for men, too. But, I suppose, since I am not a size 6, I should just be very grateful to even have a husband who loves me, and friends who treasure me, since my worthiness obviously decreases with each extra pound. Mea culpa, maxima culpa! Maybe I should just go gorge myself on a box of chocolates since I am sooo unworthy (heavy sarcasm, for those of you who don't recognize it). It's too bad there are so many judgemental people in the world. You miss out on some wonderful friendships being so narrow-minded.

AZB · #34 03-01-2004, 11:43 PM

DRgirlatheart, when you eat all those delicious chocolates, please eat a few for me too. I am sorry I was a bit hard on you. If you had a wonderful time at the resort then take it for what it was worth. All I am trying to say is be carefull, have your fun but leave everything behind when you go back. I can see that you had a straight head on your shoulders when you were flirting but alot of girls do get taken by all the attention and end up leaving their jobs and the gifted life thay have back home just to come and be with a guy who is not only a total loser but also not totally sincere. The girl gets hurt and often loses everything she had left behind. She then moves on to another sankie and works in tour agencies just to make ends meet until she breaks down and goes back home empty handed.
Now never mind Lee-lee, she is a sankie lover. She defends those scums because she is one of them.
I am not rich by any standards but I have learned to choose my company carefully. Back in USA, I didn't hang around with the project low life boys from the hood so why should I seek them here? I don't look for friendship in dirt. I have nothing in common with those guys who live in slums and feed on ignorant white traveling women for visa, gifts and money. I didn't go through all the tough schooling to then hang around with some uneducated guys and girls who only have one track mind: ripping off tourists.
I choose to associate myself with the decent dominicans who are the productive work force of this country. These dominicans don't work in resorts and don't make friends with tourists. They are educated folks who work and act responsibly like the rest of the decent folks of this world. I simply feel more comfortable with them as oppose being with to a hotel servent.
Good day.
AZB

Escott · #35 03-02-2004, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DRgirlatheart

There are many men who prefer large women (gives them something other than bones to hold on to), so it is entirely possible that occasionally one of these men might potentially be sincere when complimenting one of the women.

Having someone who doesn't really know me pay me that kind of attention and tell me I am beautiful really made me feel very good about myself, and made me want to work on the parts that I didn't like so that I can feel that beautiful without having someone tell me. Since coming home, I have started working out and cutting out the junk food, have lost over 20 pounds already. My husband is also benefitting from this, as he is trying to lose the extra weight as well, so we are encouraging each other.

Even large women have some beauty somewhere - why not let us enjoy the feeling rather than putting us down for wanting to feel beautiful, when the men at home perhaps don't recognize our beauty? (By the way, he never once asked me for money or anything.) Yes, I am sure that there are many guys who will prey upon the women and if they don't watch their emotions, it would be very easy to get taken for a ride in more ways than one. However, I am sure that not all the men in the DR who compliment a female tourist are sankies, and I think you are painting them all with the same brush unnecessarily.

I know there is truth to what I have said.Regards.

Are you from Canada also? Just curious, I am taking a survey. Is it the cold weather in Canada that makes people lethargic?

I don't think that there are many men that would pick a large woman over something relatively less rotund standing right by her side. Only time that would happen would be if he had no confidence and didn't think he stoo1d a chance with the "looker".

You can talk yourself into it all you want to but it Ain't the truth.

No one said that they are ALL sankies but that would be a good generalization for sure. If it walks like a duck, smells like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is probably a freakin duck btw.

Some people just don't get it.

Have a nice nite.

Too bad you need a shyster telling you how beautiful you are in order for you to want to take care of yourself. Too bad!

DRgirlatheart · #36 03-02-2004, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Escott

Too bad you need a shyster telling you how beautiful you are in order for you to want to take care of yourself. Too bad!

Escott, in one way, you are absolutely right. It is too bad I needed to be presented with that situation in order to get out of the slump I was in and start caring about me again. I just had gradually gotten to the point where I just really didn't matter to me much anymore. Frankly, though, it was exactly the kick in the butt that I needed to get me on the right track again. I don't really care what got me motivated or why it got me motivated. The main thing is that it did! God willing, I will now actually live to be an old women, rather than potentially dying in my 40s from a heart attack.

I do certainly think it is important, though, not to let your heart run away with you when you are faced with all this flattery. I would suggest that other plus-sized women going down to the DR on their own just enjoy a week of feeling like a goddess and then come home and make it happen on your own.

carlos · #37 03-02-2004, 10:12 AM

DRGirl@heart,

maybe AZB's message was not delivered how you may have expected it, but look deep within his message. All he is doing is try to do is help you with a warning. Most of these guys at the resorts are the way he desribed and one thing is for sure, they are not going to be sincere with you. Keep in mind that these guys/gals are paid to keep the visitors happy. They will say anything to you as long as you are smiling.

Having one, two or ten degrees will not make you immune to the tactics that some of these guys try to use. Why a woman needs to go to another country and seek the attention of these guys is beyond my imagination. My wife and I have seen it in Puerto Plata, Boca Chica and Punta Cana and it is really sad.

You will read about women who come here time and time again with Sankie stories. Most don't end up "happily ever after."

Why you came down to DR and flirted with a guy and it made you feel better is beyond my comprehension. Your motivation was right there by you all the time. It was you!! Look in the mirror and find motivation within yourself..thats what really counts!

Lottusflower · #38 03-02-2004, 12:17 PM

True to the matter, no middle class or upperclass dominican woman would be caugth dead with a Sanky, nevertheless I remember that I once had this huge argument with this Cabarete german client, who came yelling into my office that all dominican women where whores. I reminded the fellow that most of the foreigners that lived in that area slept every nigth with the dominican trash that not even the lowest income dominican would do. And not only that, they also make them wives and let them carry on pregnancies.... of their offspring. To say the least he was completly in shock after I ended my little speech. This to say something not to be forgotten: For me the situation is quite simple, like in economy where there are buyers there will be sellers. Be there men or women. So why should you all bash only the sellers. Buyers are as quilty as the ones who sell, or should we forget that many of child pornografy and sexual exploitation occurs here and most of them are handled by foreigners here. Do you see dominican men, going out to discos searching for 14 years old boys to sleep with them? I think that if you would check that out, you would find, mainly, Italians, French, Germans, US and Canadians... To to mention a fact.

So if they want to sell themselves as sankies to adults... let it be. And change subject.....

Escott · #39 03-02-2004, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottusflower

True to the matter, no middle class or upperclass dominican woman would be caugth dead with a Sanky, nevertheless I remember that I once had this huge argument with this Cabarete german client, who came yelling into my office that all dominican women where whores. I reminded the fellow that most of the foreigners that lived in that area slept every nigth with the dominican trash that not even the lowest income dominican would do. And not only that, they also make them wives and let them carry on pregnancies.... of their offspring. To say the least he was completly in shock after I ended my little speech. This to say something not to be forgotten: For me the situation is quite simple, like in economy where there are buyers there will be sellers. Be there men or women. So why should you all bash only the sellers. Buyers are as quilty as the ones who sell, or should we forget that many of child pornografy and sexual exploitation occurs here and most of them are handled by foreigners here. Do you see dominican men, going out to discos searching for 14 years old boys to sleep with them? I think that if you would check that out, you would find, mainly, Italians, French, Germans, US and Canadians... To to mention a fact.

So if they want to sell themselves as sankies to adults... let it be. And change subject.....

Jesus, can I sell you a clue.

carlos · #40 03-02-2004, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Escott

Jesus, can I sell you a clue.

LOL

Flowergirl,

the point being is that women come to this board and sometimes ask for it. It is the same question over and over again. If 99.9 out of 100 cases involving thes guys are no good, why do you hold on to that small % and think everything will be ok? as you stated, there are buyers and sellers...just dont come to the board crying when you fall for one of these guys who the dominicans from the low social scale will not even associate themselves with

it really does amaze me