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Old 03-06-2005, 05:29 PM
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Added by Robert:

I have split this thread off from the Punta Cana tragedy thread.

As others have said, you need to get out of this relationship ASAP!
If you don;t break it off, who knows what will happen?
Sorry, but this is just another low life tigre, I don't care if he drives a car or not.

If you need help, lots of us on the board live here and we are only a PM away.
Don't be afraid to ask, nothing worse than being in a bad situation in an unfamiliar country.

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I totally undersatnd what you are saying about "they think you beong to them for lie"

I am new to DR. I have been living here for about 3 weeks. My realtionship didn't work out with the boy that I had been with on a previous vacation. Now I'm here to live for a year or so. I am seeing another boy. He is very nice to me. Not a sankie pankie. He has a car and money and loves to show me affection anywhere and everywhere. The only thing is he runs with a bad crowed and I find him being very jealous. He goes to the discos alot and if any boys looks at me or talks to me he is all over me asking who are the what are they saying. He has even gone to the extreme to say if cheat on him he will kill me. I don't know him that well he doesn't seem like the violent type even tho he sometimes poses or talks like he is. I'm getting scared as I am staying in a small town and everyone knows everyones buisness. For example my friend and I poped by to see our friend "Tony" and my boyfriend some how new I was there and freaked out siad he doesn't like "tony" and he never wants me to talk to him again.

I don't know what to do??? I don't want to get in over my head. If I break it off wo knows what he will do.

Help

Toronto Blonde

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I am sorry about your loss la flor,

what also makes me sad is the fact that many of you would still defend these scums like a lionese her cubs still thinking that these guys are trully in love with you and not the money signs that they see on your foreheads.

Now you see why Miguel, AZB and many others come down so hard on you.

Most likely this poor girl was caught trying to sober up by talking to someone else which is a NO-GO in the mind of many of these guys. Once you are with them they think that you belong to them for life and they even dislike even if someone else just looks at you for one second.

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Old 03-06-2005, 05:49 PM
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I am new to DR. I have been living here for about 3 weeks. My realtionship didn't work out with the boy that I had been with on a previous vacation. Now I'm here to live for a year or so. I am seeing another boy. He is very nice to me. Not a sankie pankie. He has a car and money and loves to show me affection anywhere and everywhere. The only thing is he runs with a bad crowed and I find him being very jealous. He goes to the discos alot and if any boys looks at me or talks to me he is all over me asking who are the what are they saying. He has even gone to the extreme to say if cheat on him he will kill me. I don't know him that well he doesn't seem like the violent type even tho he sometimes poses or talks like he is. I'm getting scared as I am staying in a small town and everyone knows everyones buisness. For example my friend and I poped by to see our friend "Tony" and my boyfriend some how new I was there and freaked out siad he doesn't like "tony" and he never wants me to talk to him again.

I don't know what to do??? I don't want to get in over my head. If I break it off wo knows what he will do.

Help

Toronto Blonde[/QUOTE]


Noone wants anything to happen to you. When this guy starts talking about killing someone if they look at you, or killing you if you break up with him, what else do you need to hear?
My premise has always been like this- in NYC, DR, Costa Rica or any other place I have been to-If I am with a girl and I am showing her a good time and treating her with respect and she STILL leaves?-I let her go and wish her all the happiness in the world. There will be someone else right behind her.
Some guys, especially in macho societies like the DR, think differently. They think it is their right to cheat on their women but their women are their PROPERTY. So if their girls cheat on them, they have to lash out because they feel they have been disrespected.
Get out of that relationship before it is too late, sister. PLEASE.
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Old 03-06-2005, 05:58 PM
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I know. He says these things in a joking manner but you never know. I am in a new country and have a lot to learn. How do I brake it off from him with out hurting his manhood and putting my life in danger??

Toronto Blonde

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I am new to DR. I have been living here for about 3 weeks. My realtionship didn't work out with the boy that I had been with on a previous vacation. Now I'm here to live for a year or so. I am seeing another boy. He is very nice to me. Not a sankie pankie. He has a car and money and loves to show me affection anywhere and everywhere. The only thing is he runs with a bad crowed and I find him being very jealous. He goes to the discos alot and if any boys looks at me or talks to me he is all over me asking who are the what are they saying. He has even gone to the extreme to say if cheat on him he will kill me. I don't know him that well he doesn't seem like the violent type even tho he sometimes poses or talks like he is. I'm getting scared as I am staying in a small town and everyone knows everyones buisness. For example my friend and I poped by to see our friend "Tony" and my boyfriend some how new I was there and freaked out siad he doesn't like "tony" and he never wants me to talk to him again.

I don't know what to do??? I don't want to get in over my head. If I break it off wo knows what he will do.

Help

Toronto Blonde

Noone wants anything to happen to you. When this guy starts talking about killing someone if they look at you, or killing you if you break up with him, what else do you need to hear?
My premise has always been like this- in NYC, DR, Costa Rica or any other place I have been to-If I am with a girl and I am showing her a good time and treating her with respect and she STILL leaves?-I let her go and wish her all the happiness in the world. There will be someone else right behind her.
Some guys, especially in macho societies like the DR, think differently. They think it is their right to cheat on their women but their women are their PROPERTY. So if their girls cheat on them, they have to lash out because they feel they have been disrespected.
Get out of that relationship before it is too late, sister. PLEASE.[/QUOTE]
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Old 03-06-2005, 08:21 PM
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you need to get out of this situation!!!immediatly! and I hope you did not move there for a man...I see this thread is opening eyes for some women here, and the sad thing is that is has to come down to death to wake us all up! I know for myself, my behavior will be different. I am looking back now wanting to kick myself for the things I have done...
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Old 03-06-2005, 10:52 PM
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My first question is :Why are you putting your self in this position? Like you mentioned before you were in abussive relationship before and you came to have fun here in dr. Your only here for a year. With the way you are handling things you will not last here a year. You have to choose what you want. Your new bf hangs out at disco's everynight, you in the otherhand want to party in discos. You want to have freedom and party, your new bf is very jelous. This is not going to work. You have to came to agrrement with him if you want to stay with him. By the way he sound's it's his way or the highway. You either have to accept his rules. (not having contacts with other party going guys) or you both stay friends and have your flings on the side and see who ever you want to see. You cannot maintain a relationship and half flings in a small town like sosua. He will hurt you either physically or psycholicaly and he jokinly warned and hinted you. personnaly I have witnessed some abuse and damage done to foreign women by their dominican lovers here in the north coast. You would not want that. Stop the drama. Just tell him that you are young, you are here just for a short while and you are not ready for a seriuos relationship now. They him you like him as a friend and want to do your own things. You are putting your self in a die hard situation. you just got over with you previous sankie bf. You met this guy while you were partying in sosua, and already he is taking control over you and questionig you talking to other guys. If I were you i would avoid this situation now. If something goes wrong for you, you have nobody in sosua to turn to for help. Just because this guy has a car and money does not mean he is not a sankie or a good guy. He sounds like a sankie. Any how it would be nice if you learned from your first mistake on your previous thread. You said that guy was not a sankie and look what happen and what he died to you. You are meeting the same guys over and over again. You are not going to meet a decent guy in sosua from the night club and beach scene. When you made your decision to live here in dr you based you thoughts from your 1& 2 week vacations. Now that you are here for a while you will see the clear picture and notice things differently. Take all the advices that you will get on this forum seriously and learn from it. From what I see your last thread you asked advice about you former sankie boyfriend. You were told that he was a clear sankie, you took the forum for granted and went ahead with it. Which is fine, cause most ladies do the same. And you learned that he indeed was a sankie trying to live off you. Nobody is blaming you. Just thing about what you are getting in to and then move on. I wish you good luck.

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Old 03-07-2005, 12:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TorontoBlonde
I am new to DR. I have been living here for about 3 weeks. My realtionship didn't work out with the boy that I had been with on a previous vacation. Now I'm here to live for a year or so. I am seeing another boy. He is very nice to me. Not a sankie pankie. He has a car and money and loves to show me affection anywhere and everywhere. The only thing is he runs with a bad crowed and I find him being very jealous. He goes to the discos alot and if any boys looks at me or talks to me he is all over me asking who are the what are they saying. He has even gone to the extreme to say if cheat on him he will kill me. I don't know him that well he doesn't seem like the violent type even tho he sometimes poses or talks like he is. I'm getting scared as I am staying in a small town and everyone knows everyones buisness. For example my friend and I poped by to see our friend "Tony" and my boyfriend some how new I was there and freaked out siad he doesn't like "tony" and he never wants me to talk to him again.

I don't know what to do??? I don't want to get in over my head. If I break it off wo knows what he will do.

Help

Toronto Blonde
First of all, thanks for listening and for reaching out.

Now it's time for us (who claim to give advices) to put our "gloves on" becasue if you notice her last words, "help" , you can see that she is reaching out!.

The "thing" that really surprised me was when you wote that he, jokingly, tells you that he would kill you.

1- Listen, it does not matter if he is telling you jokingly or not, he has no right to tell you that. All he is doing is that he is trying to see your reaction when he tells you that. If he sees that you are getting mad at him for saying that, he will backpedal and say that he was only joking. All he is doing is "testing the waters" to see how far he can push you. Big red flag. DROP HIM!!

2- He runs with a bad crowd?. Well, as the old saying goes: "tell me with whom you hang and I will tell you who you are". He is, most probably, exactly the same as his crowd. If you see that they are no good, there's a big chance that he is no good also. Big red flag. DROP HIM!!

3- He is very jealous?. Well, as my MOM used to say: jealousy is just another name for insecurity. EVERYTHING between you and him should be "rosey" at this stage of the relationship. If he is already forbitting(?) you talk to others is because he is very insecure and he is trying to control your life. If you let him, he WILL try to control all your movements. He talks 'tough" because he is trying to intimidate you. He talks that way because he wants you to know that if you do anything to him, he would hurt you. Remember that if this is the way that he treats you now, IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE AS TIME PASSES BY. Big red flag. DROP HIM!!.

4- You are scared?. Wel, listen to your senses. If you think that he will hurt you, mention it to someone that has no relation to him, even if it's your neighbors. Make people aware that you are scared and that he is the one that is scaring you. Whatever you do, and no matter how he treats you from now on, you have to realize that all he is doing is trying to control and manipulate you. He is trying to control you mind and thoughts. If you let him "plant the seed", he will control you completely!. Red flag. DROP HIM.

5- He has a car and money". So did Ted Bundy, Christan Brando and most of the people have have killed just "for the heck of it". Get my point?. Anybody can be a lunatic, rich, poor or whatever.

Btw, I did asked you something to which you did not reponded, "what's your hurry?". You have to do your part to help yourself. You started dating this "boy" a few days after leaving the other "boy" and maybe that is the reason as to why he is trying to control you. Maybe he is thinking that you will do the same to him. You need to stop this nonsense. Help yourself by not putting yourself in situations where someone can hurt you. You have been in the DR about 3 weeks and all this drama with 2 guys already can bite you in the axx.

Act now before it's too late. Drop that jack axx because what you see now is just a preview of what will happen later, only worse. You need to act like you respect yourself in order for others to respect you. I know that you are young but, as I told you before, enjoy the country and keep in mind that you do not need a man by your side in order to do all you want to do. I know that you are on the "rebound" but you are putting yourself in a position that it will only hurt you. The longer you are with him, the more rights he will think that he has over you.

Not, it's up to you. Do you want to keep on living the way you are right now, with being scare and all, or do you want to change your surroundings?. If you want to change your surroundings, drop him before the situation gets worse. If you don't, I promise you that IT WILL get worse.

Side note: HE WILL ONLY TREAT YOU AS BAD AS YOU LET HIM!. If you want to end things with him, put your foot down and tell him, DIPLOMATICLY, that there are many things that you don't like about him and then DROP HIM, again, very DIPLOMATICLY!!!. You are also to blame for what is happening to you. If you keep going the way you are, your dominican "adventure" WILL become a dominican "nightmare". Conduct yourself well and people WILL respect you!.

I am 120% sure that before you know it and when you are not looking for it, a true, proud and decent dominican will find you!. DON'T RUSH IT!!!!!

Be well and slow down before you crash!!!!!.

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Old 03-07-2005, 02:24 AM
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it s just curious in your last thread I writting to you then now you living in dr you will more understand in few time why miguel and azb are so rude against sankie and all defender of sankie but with what I read now maybe you will listen more fast that what I think!!!

so please listen them before you got problem because they know how can a bad man can be there. I have just living there few month and I saw and hear many bad story .

you are a beautiful women so why stay with this kind of man be strong and stop everything with him before it s was too late!!!

enjoy your stay there , have the more fun you want have but the most important put your limit and don t accept anything you don t want and you will see you will have only good people around you and the bad one will leave because they will see they can t win nothing with you. like you say it s a little town where you live so if you give a chance to one bad man to win on you, well you will see all other wait for their glorious time and the good people will take distance because they don t want problem .

hope the best for you
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Old 03-07-2005, 03:08 AM
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Toronto Blonde,

From on Canadian girl to another. Although I haven't lived in the DR I have lived in a Latin Country where the "Machismo" thought and attitude is alive and running. I haven't been in a situation where my boyfriend has threated to kill me wether he was joking or not, and the reason is because I don't allow it.

My first peice of advice is that you are in the DR to have fun to see the country ect. Drop the boys, your a young girl living with a friend, forget about the boyfriends well you are there and go out and have some fun. Live life as if every day is your last, and you can't do that if you are hanging on to a guy you've only know for a few days.

Second, if you want to stay with this guy you make it perfectly clear to him that you are in control, although this may sound very weird to you and some others, that is what kept things in line with my relationship. I never had my boyfriend who I am with tell me he would kill me but he did do the macho thing, "Whos that guy" "What did he say" "How do you know him" when people would approach me in Nightclubs, and my response was, If you want me to tell you everything then your going to do the exactly same thing...That stopped pretty quickly. If he knows that your in control and you Know that you are in control and act as though your in control, thats going to come off alot differently then if you just sit there get angry and then let it go. As someone said above each time he's going to go a little further too see how far he can get with you. Put your foot down now and stop the behaviour.

Hope that helps, and good luck!
Mofi
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Old 03-07-2005, 10:32 AM
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Hi T,

Would you tolerate this from any man in Canada? .... someone threating and acting like you are his possession. He hasn't even given you a promise of developing a relationship.

It doesn't matter where you are, you should not accept crap from anyone. I hope you have the courage to get away fast form this low life.

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Old 03-07-2005, 10:53 AM
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Hi TorontoBlonde,

Hey...we have a HB = Hillbilly, a BB = Bushbaby,
and two TB's = Texas Bill and TorontoBlonde!!!

On the serious side though, there's a lot a great advice in this thread for you... It is up to you to TAKE IT. The last several posts should be very informative to you. In particular post #6.

You have to break it off 1. Immediately 2. Completely 3. Decisively,
4. Irrevocably, and 5. Diplomatically (if possible)!

Make others around you who you know and trust (not his friends and relatives) aware of this situation and that there may be concern for your safety. Then distance yourself, even if it means moving.

Next time around...remember what has happened to you, and get to know someone real well first! Otherwise you're going to end up right back here again. Unfortunately, sometimes it is better not to give someone so much trust, even expect the worst of them, until they prove they are genuine, and this should take months and months and months after what you've been through.

When we choose the behaviour, we choose the consequences! All of us here are wishing you all the best in your future decisions.

Best Wishes

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