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Originally Posted by qgrande
That's because they need your dinero; you won't automatically become a king in Switzerland, amigo.
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What "dinero", señor?? Did I talk about my bank account?? I don't have "dinero" and so I don't think they are after that. In fact, I'm glad I don't have money because that way I don't attract the wrong type of women.
Now, you make it look like if Latin women were only after the money which in fact it's the other way around, it's first world women who are after the money.
Of course, the wrong type of Latina will go only after the money i.e. piranhas, jineteras, interesadas, prostitutas, etc. but "cada quien habla de la feria como le fue en ella" and in my experience first world women are much more materialistic than women in certain Latin countries.
First world women tend to value financial assets more than qualities such as honesty, manners, being responsible, etc. In other words, you can be a very good person but if you don't have money and/or looks, it'll be hard to be successful with the women you want in the first world, especially young women.
I am aware many foreigners who go to Latin America have bad experiences with women only being interested in them because of their money but again, "cada quien habla de la feria como le fue en ella" and I think these men either are too old, have no idea of how to conquer the heart of a Latina, or both.
This is what I was talking about in my post. I emphasized the importance of learning the language of the place where you go looking for decent women as well as learning how to think like the people, understanding the culture and learning everything you can about that country.
In my trips I see many foreign men both young and old who are unable to tell a prostitute from a decent girl. They either end up dating a prostitute thinking it's a decent woman or treating decent women as if they were prostitutes. Most of these men have no understanding of the culture and some of them can't even speak the language.
I think women from some Latin American countries have different values than their first world counterparts. For example, money is important but it's not something they need you to have when you start a relationship with them. In other words, many of them think that if you're a responsible, honest, hardworking person you will eventually have enough money to become a good provider for them and their children.
This may take years but they can wait. Having the qualities I just mentioned is what is important to them right now. Money will come in the future.
This is probably how things used to be in the United States a long time ago but now, American women have become extremely obsessed with money and a lot of my American friends also believe this so I don't think it's just my imagination or a personal incorrect perception of how things are.
I have seen this subject discussed in many forums too and the consensus seems to be that yes, American women have become very materialistic.
That's probably why women in the first world aren't interested in a poor Speedy Gonzalez mouse like me but guess what?? This poor mouse saves money then goes to some places in the third world, lives there very modestly without a car, traveling by public bus, dressing simple, etc. and still, many nice decent women find him interesting because they say he's "different" from the men they are used to deal with.
What's this magic difference?? It's certainly not money because the girls that are interested in me are approximately on the same economic level as me. Yes, some of them maybe poorer but others have more money than me.
I think the difference is in the VALUES. For example, Brazilian women value faithfulness more than American women. Why?? Because American women expect their men to be faithful. It's something they take for granted but Brazilians don't!!! Brazilian men tend to cheat on their girlfriends and wives and Brazilian women expect that, though they don't like it. What happens if they find a man that is faithful?? He will certainly impress them!
The same goes for values like being respectful and understanding. Many Brazilian men treat their women so bad that when Brazilian women meet a man that actually treats them with respect, they are impressed!
This also applies when trying to meet women in malls, streets, discos, etc. Most Brazilian men are so agressive in these situations that even a "Mexican macho" like me feels offended and sorry for the girls that are harassed in such a disgusting way by strangers who want to meet them and take them to bed immediately. Girls are used to this and they tolerate it but they don't actually appreciate it.
So, if this poor mouse comes along, sees a pretty girl in the mall and approaches her like a gentleman who would make his grandmother proud would, He can easily impress her!
He just needs to approach her the way most Mexicans approach a girl in Mexico. Americans may use a similar approach in the US, I don't know. However, Brazilians use quite a different approach so women may feel like princesses if they are approached by real gentlemen like us foreigners as opposed to libidinous boys wearing bermudas and tennis shoes throwing indecent proposals at them like if these girls were prostitutes or something. Not all Brazilians are like that but most of the young men I saw in these situations were "safados" (Portuguese for "totally crazy"). Even more crazy was to see that some of the girls actually excused themselves very politely for not accepting these proposals. I mean, if American women were approached this way, the guy would get arrested for sexual harassment and Mexican women would probably cry or call their macho brother to take care of the "bad guy". However, these ways of meeting women are pretty common in some places in Brazil and the girls tolerate it, some might even like it if they are too desperate for boyfriends. However, being a gentleman sets you apart from all these men and you don't even need money.
This is just an example but there are many ways in which foreigners are different to the locals and if the difference is a positive one, it can be used to your advantage. So, I don't think money is the only thing foreign men have over local men. However, if you're the type of foreigner that brags about his money, car, etc. decent girls in Latin America will find this disgusting because they value being modest. I always tell them that I'm poor but I say it as if I was proud of it, as if it really didn't matter to me which is the truth and for some reason, they seem to like men that aren't afraid of being poor. It's part of the machismo way of thinking. And yes, women in Latin America love machos but machos with class, not like the libidinous boys in bermuda shorts who approach them.
I really don't consider myself a loser in the United States or in Mexico for not having success with women in North America. I just think those women are not smart or sensitive enough to value the good qualities in me so why bother with these materialistic "bobas" when you can go to other places and date prettier, younger, caring, more intelligent women than in the USA and Mexico?
The problem is being able to choose "the one" from so many nice prospects. Those who have been to South America know what I'm talking about (especially those men under 40 y/o).
That is what I meant by saying I was a "nobody" in the United States. Actually, I'm not a nobody but women there (and in Mexico) may perceive me as a "nobody" because they are sailing in the ocean of materialism and consumism and I'm not a sailor in that sea. I have my own paradise under that sea surrounded by beautiful mermaids. If only I didn't have to go back to the sea surface every now and then...
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Latin vs. non-Latin foreigners?? Who do the chicas prefer??
