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Old 05-13-2008, 08:35 AM
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Default Women that have been sankified and "want to help the Dominican poor"

On a number of threads/posts I have noticed that the same women that have met a sanky (albeit they are not convienced yet he is a sanky) seem to think that they can return to the DR and "save the world" Some of them go so far as to say they will dump their job and life, return to the DR and "I think I can really make a difference" with the children, the poor the ills of the Dominican Republic. As a point of reference their is a current thread right now that illustates my point.

My question is: Why do you think a woman is compelled to think like this?
Are the two (sankified and "I can help..) part and parcel of a personality that would allow a sanky to enter their lives? Are they that vulnerable? That emotionallly sensistive? And finally-what brings out the Mother Theresa in them that makes them think they can "change the world" of the Dominican poor?

Serious responses welcomed.
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:42 AM
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Default I think that..............

as stated by many in many many many posts, most comes down to the sunshine, Brugel, lack of "something" in home country, the "romance of adventure", the feeling of looking at little kid faces that are ooo so in need...............

Then reality sets in.

Case #1 =http://www.dr1.com/forums/men-mars-women-venus/73602-boy-i-wrong-runaway-niece.html

Result =http://www.dr1.com/forums/men-mars-women-venus/75084-update-runaway-niece.html

This is something that will never stop. We will see these posts daily. And theirs is always different.
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:54 AM
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Not to wish to minimise genuine noble intentions that do exist, this is often part of the self-deception of morally justifying a process that was sparked off by plain old lust.
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:08 AM
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Wink Interesting ......

I agree that there is an element of this in some of the scenarios that appear on here.

I do wonder if it is a sign of an open and trusting personality; basically a "nice" person who goes to the DR and meets someone that he/she thinks may be "the one" and then looks about and sees other things that he/she feels she may be able to help/change/support? It is IMO about taking things at face value - believing what you hear and see without questioning its validity.

Leekiv is absolutely right in that the setting and circumstances set the right scene for a "holiday romance" - and this happens all over the world. However in the DR this often seems to be taken a few steps further than that, with hopes and dreams of "everlasting love"' without the tourist knowing anything of the history, culture and language of the person and country that he/she has fallen in love with.

People who want "to save the world" and "help the poor" are all over the world and I personally do not see it as a bad thing , unlike some vociferous posters on here. We are all here to live our own lives and do what we want with our money and wordly goods as we see fit. Providing this does not hurt anyone then it is their business and their business alone. Where I think this can go wrong is if the person involved is basing their actions on a foundation of untruths and deception.

My advice to anyone who arrives in the DR and thinks they have found something previously lacking in their lives - whether it be a man,woman or lifestyle is this:-

Take your time, learn some Spanish, make some more trips and get to know the place and people. Ask lots of questions. There is no hurry.......

My two and a half pesos..

Rio
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:09 AM
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Not to wish to minimise genuine noble intentions that do exist, this is often part of the self-deception of morally justifying a process that was sparked off by plain old lust.
I'm sure this is the answer. It will be interesting to see if one of these ladies would like to debate your point and substantiate their response with hard facts.
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:09 AM
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Not to wish to minimise genuine noble intentions that do exist, this is often part of the self-deception of morally justifying a process that was sparked off by plain old lust.
That too Chiri....
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Old 05-13-2008, 10:05 AM
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I guess I will take the bait...

My intention to do some volunteering is not based on a lustful or sexual situation, but rather a general feeling of dissatisfaction in my current job that I have felt for a long time. I have spent the greater part of this year debating whether I want to continue in my career path or choose another one. Prior to visiting the DR, I had investigated other career possibilities in my country, such as RCMP, but in the end, decided that they were not exactly what I was looking for. I have also applied to begin a Master's degree, and am STILL waiting to hear if I have been accepted...which is very frustrating for me. So my plan to do something different was not born out of me visiting and becoming enamoured with the DR, although I do think that it is an amazing place in many ways...but I also know that it has its many difficulties and problems.

I had never really had a "calling" to do a specific job...I felt that I liked working with people, and specifically, adolescents, and so I thought that teaching was the right choice for me...and in many ways I feel that it is - but as the years go on and as I teach in different schools, I am finding it increasingly hard to reconcile being a part of a machine that promotes and enables such ignorant, (comparatively) spoiled and ungrateful young adults with an unfaltering false sense of entitlement. Particularly after having visited rural government-run Dominican schools, as well as a Haitian sugar cane village, my disillusionment with the North American youth that I am teaching - and the school system - has grown exponentially. To go from meeting children who have nothing and who are grateful for anything you can do for them, who want to learn, and who are excited about being given a pencil back to the verbally abusive, ungrateful and lazy attitudes of the students here has been very difficult for me to deal with...and I have continued to think about being able to do work that would actually benefit others, that would be more lasting and more rewarding than filling out referral after referral of misbehaviours, only for nothing to be done, and more and more students given the ability to hide behind their "labels" and excuses as to why they should get credit for doing nothing.

As a teacher of language, I am also intruiged and drawn to being able to learn a new language myself...I have already started to learn some Spanish, and am looking forward to being in an immersion setting, where I will really be able to get the full benefit. The cultural aspect is also very interesting to me, as I do like to travel and have been to different places around the world where the cultures are very different than my own.

My current plan is not to "give up" my life here, but to take a temporary leave of absence and do something meaningful, different, and beneficial to those who really need it. My job, family, and life will be here for me when I get back - I am not running away to the DR to "save the world" or chase a "sankie." I am at a cross-roads in my life and am in need of taking some time for myself and do some soul-searching and goodwill to others. I hope that this has been helpful to provide you with this "lady's" thoughts and insight.
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Old 05-13-2008, 10:18 AM
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Best of luck to you in trying to find yourself.
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Old 05-13-2008, 10:42 AM
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My current plan is not to "give up" my life here, but to take a temporary leave of absence and do something meaningful, different, and beneficial to those who really need it. My job, family, and life will be here for me when I get back - I am not running away to the DR to "save the world" or chase a "sankie." I am at a cross-roads in my life and am in need of taking some time for myself and do some soul-searching and goodwill to others. I hope that this has been helpful to provide you with this "lady's" thoughts and insight.[/quote]

Do what a good friend of mine did and join The Peace Corp.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:05 AM
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Do what a good friend of mine did and join The Peace Corp.[/quote]



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