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Old 05-03-2009, 11:42 AM
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one of the problems i see with the 2 year committment stateside is that for the fraudsters- have 2 more years to really fuk up someone's life and not just emotionally.

2 more years of financial turmoil...
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:15 PM
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_ have 2 more years to really fuk _
Motivation for exporting the DDD?
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Old 05-03-2009, 01:11 PM
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one of the problems i see with the 2 year committment stateside is that for the fraudsters- have 2 more years to really fuk up someone's life and not just emotionally.

2 more years of financial turmoil...
The other side of the coin is that some nice people with good intentions might feel trapped with an abusive exploiter.

Some good people get to the promised land only to find that their fun loving bundle of joy suddenly turned into a manipulative control freak, jealous psychopath, etc.....

Both sides need to choose carefully.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:53 PM
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I am the person in the article and I have been working very hard to get immigration to change their laws.
Yes Anna I should have hired a private investigator before he came to Canada, but I didn't. I live with the mistake I made and take full responsibility for my actions. This is why I do interviews and post on here so hopefully women won't make the same mistake. I have sent immigration all the proof, copies of the application where he lied and proof of the common law wife and children. I sent everything to them Feb/08 and I'm still waiting for them to do something. All I am asking is for them to interview him and come to their own decision about how he lied and misrepresented himself to gain status in Canada.
Unfortunately, alot of these con artists (from all different countries) know that they can come to Canada and not even spend one day with the sponsor. They know that immigration will not do anything. They receive permanent resident status immediately,
can collect social assistance, have free medical health care and can become Canadian citizens. Canada is they only country that does not have conditions on the PR status.
Immigration needs to investigate some of these cases that are being presented to them.
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:08 PM
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I would gladly pay for the ticket back if I knew he was being deported....no problem.
At least that would be cheaper than the tax payers paying for these people for the rest of their lives.
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:50 PM
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I am the person in the article and I have been working very hard to get immigration to change their laws.
Yes Anna I should have hired a private investigator before he came to Canada, but I didn't. I live with the mistake I made and take full responsibility for my actions. This is why I do interviews and post on here so hopefully women won't make the same mistake. I have sent immigration all the proof, copies of the application where he lied and proof of the common law wife and children. I sent everything to them Feb/08 and I'm still waiting for them to do something. All I am asking is for them to interview him and come to their own decision about how he lied and misrepresented himself to gain status in Canada.
Unfortunately, alot of these con artists (from all different countries) know that they can come to Canada and not even spend one day with the sponsor. They know that immigration will not do anything. They receive permanent resident status immediately,
can collect social assistance, have free medical health care and can become Canadian citizens. Canada is they only country that does not have conditions on the PR status.
Immigration needs to investigate some of these cases that are being presented to them.
First of all, sorry for what happened to you. I hope you're moving past this fraud that happened to you since you mentioned anxiety attacks leaving the house in the your comments on the Globe & Mail website. It's great that you are telling your story and posting there and here. I hope people read it and think.

I don't really believe there is a problem with the immigration laws per se, but with the time it takes to investigate the immigration fraud and remove someone who breaks the law. I'm proud of the fact we don't have a sub-class of immigrants in Canada (on trial, on probation to a Canadian husband or wife). I would hate to new residents living under the threat of deportation with some temporary status, I think there are individuals who might use that power over someone. Traffic women into the country and pimp them.

I would say in your situation, since he misrepresented himself and lied about children in his application, a second family, and you can prove it, immigration and border services should act on it and remove him. I think that's the real problem. They are too slow to process immigration cases and slow to investigate and deport criminals. Is he on welfare or working? If on social assistance, have you been asked to repay? The other questions I have for you are: Do you think we fail to educate our citizens (daughters) about this? Were you aware of immigration fraud before you married this man? Thanks once again for sharing your experience.
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:19 PM
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The other question I have for you about the article, the author says you married in Oct. 2004 and he arrived in Canada in December of that year. How is that possible? That would be the fastest turnaround time ever. It also says people are jilted within hours and days of exchanging their wedding vows. I don't think it works that way. Although it makes for dramatic reading exaggeration doesn't really help matters.
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:21 PM
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I am the person in the article and I have been working very hard to get immigration to change their laws.
Yes Anna I should have hired a private investigator before he came to Canada, but I didn't. I live with the mistake I made and take full responsibility for my actions. This is why I do interviews and post on here so hopefully women won't make the same mistake. I have sent immigration all the proof, copies of the application where he lied and proof of the common law wife and children. I sent everything to them Feb/08 and I'm still waiting for them to do something. All I am asking is for them to interview him and come to their own decision about how he lied and misrepresented himself to gain status in Canada.
Unfortunately, alot of these con artists (from all different countries) know that they can come to Canada and not even spend one day with the sponsor. They know that immigration will not do anything. They receive permanent resident status immediately,
can collect social assistance, have free medical health care and can become Canadian citizens. Canada is they only country that does not have conditions on the PR status.
Immigration needs to investigate some of these cases that are being presented to them.

I'm so sorry for what you are doing through. I see you've been a member since 2006 so I take it that you didn't see any of the info we've had up for years on DR1. I'm sure you've read a lot of threads and articles since then but I'd like to ask you this, if you had read any of the warning before getting married would you have seen it in your own case or would you have thought, gee that's too bad but it has nothing to do with my relationship.

Does the scammer have to actually leave before we see what they truly are? Can you now see any of the signs that people warn about? Did you allow the signs to go over your head because you were in love? I'm asking all these questions because I'm trying to understand why people don't see it until it's too late and not as any disrespect to you.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:25 AM
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The other questions I have for you are: Do you think we fail to educate our citizens (daughters) about this?
Well we can educate all we want, but in matters of the heart- all reason and logic go out the window...

I believe we are all fairly helpless to love...and if the person we are in love with seems like an upgrade from our previous love interests, ie very attractive, very good sexually, etc-

those things make it even harder to believe the truth because we dont' want that 'feeling' of being in love to end.

i'd say women fall victim to it far more than men do- which really is a good thing for us men or we'd have trouble getting a girl to fall in love with us if they thought logically and with their heads!!
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:44 AM
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Is he on welfare or working?

If on social assistance, have you been asked to repay?

The other questions I have for you are: Do you think we fail to educate our citizens (daughters) about this?

Were you aware of immigration fraud before you married this man?

The other question I have for you about the article, the author says you married in Oct. 2004 and he arrived in Canada in December of that year. How is that possible?
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I'd like to ask you this, if you had read any of the warning before getting married would you have seen it in your own case or would you have thought, gee that's too bad but it has nothing to do with my relationship.

Does the scammer have to actually leave before we see what they truly are?

Can you now see any of the signs that people warn about?

Did you allow the signs to go over your head because you were in love?
Do you mind if we ask you a few questions?

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