Culture Shock

[jrhartley]

would you mine popping ouside to knock in a few fence posts, darling while I finish re-arranging these cushions

[Rbh44]

I find this discussion very interesting. I have spoken with women in the states who think it would be better to return to those ways. The man bring home the bacon and the women home. They feel the family would be better off, especially kids with the mother in the home.

[slrguy]

Originally Posted by nuguynyc

I got lost in the vocabulary.

OK..how's this. She's ****ed because she thinks women are exploited. But it's the women who teach kids (of BOTH sexes!) this "exploitative" behavior. The same women she thinks are the victims are the ones who largely are responsible for the behavior continuing.

So she either needs to keep quiet, or direct her anger at the real source, and quit blaming "a**hole" men, IMHO.

How can anyone deserve sympathy for stuff they do to themselves? is my point.

Better?

[greydread]

I'm seeing a common thread here. This appears to have turned into a conversation about "what's in it for me" from gender specific points of view. The problem with this thinking is that it won't work in a "We" World. If the OP's Lady friend tries to arrange his luggage and make him feel comfortable around her I don't think we should read any more into it than what's on the surface. Apparently they were at the role defining stage of their relationship at the opening post as nothing he wrote indicated otherwise.

I iron the clothes and do the laundry. Does this make me less of a man in someone else's view? Then they're stupid. I do these things because, quite frankly I'm better at it. It makes a whole lot more sense to me to perform these tasks correctly than to go around moaning about my partner's lack of proficiency. That's the difference in thinking for "We" vs. "Me". Likewise, if the bathroom doesn't seem clean enough to me it's better for me to clean the stupid thing than to put it on a list of stuff to complain about. In a good relationship the participants tend to "get in where they fit in" for their mutual benefit. This is what I think the purpose of the OP's Lady friend trying to help comfort him in her way.

I've read posts warning him of being set up for robbery...what's he got in the bag? Gold nuggets? Jeez. She's just being nice to the guy. How did this turn into the cultural dominance created by poverty, the inequity of the sexes, yada, yada, yada?

When will it once again be politically correct for men and women to care for and be nice to one another without raising suspicions or being cast into a narrow category. I'll tell you what her Grandma taught her: "You can catch more flies with molasses than with vinegar". Apparently she listened. Good girl, lucky guy.