Dancing With Local Senoritas On The North Coast.

[sweetdbt]

Originally Posted by AZB

How many times we have to go over this issue? Ok, so i will re-invent the wheel all over again for this newbie.

Chopo is not always poor labor class. A chopo can be rich and famous ex: pedro martinez, anthony santos (bachatero) etc. Most dominican yorks are 100 % chopos (note: not all). Some of the biggest chopos in this country are engineers, business owners, politician and even doctors. They all drive SUV and talk loud on cell phones. Gold's gym is full of rich chopos; hint: they love to wear red sneakers.
A poor dominican can be very decent and not be a chopo at all. It just so happens most poor barrio folks are chopos.

Now a "decent" dominican doesn't automatically mean they are elitest class. Elite class folks don't really interact with anyone except themselves. I usually talk about middle to upper middle class folks. Folks with good education, own a late model car, live in a decent sized house in a nice neighborhood and travel frequently to usa and other countries. These folks are far from elite class dominicans but they certainly don't dress or act like chopos.
The elite class folks are in a class by themselves in DR. They fly to maimi just for a weekend shopping trip; they are all seen in first class of planes. They own villas in La romana and often spend weekends in bavaro / punta cana. They are millionaires by any standards. These folks own DR.
So folks, I don't hang with them and I was certainly not talking about them in my post. DR doesn't only have poor barrio folks and then elite class on the other side, there are many middle class folks who also live here.
Have I made this clear or confused you even more?
AZB

AZB,

I appreciate your explaination. Although I am a relative newbie, I don't believe I was confused, but you have clarified/verified some things for me, and I appreciate you taking the time. I happen to believe that decent people can also live in small (but well-kept) houses in poor neighborhoods, drive older model cars, and dress tastefully. They may not have the funds to travel abroad, or at least not frequently. They may not be highly educated, but they sacrifice for their daughter to go to university. They enjoy merengue and salsa, but prefer bachata. They drink Presidente and Brugal Extra Viejo.

The place they go to listen to music, drink and dance is sometimes (not always) a carwash. If that makes them chopos, they're pretty "decent" chopos if you ask me.

Have a nice day

(seriously, no sarcasm intended)

[Jackson]

Originally Posted by AZB

What are you folks talking about, mountian view, barica etc? Then some genious mentions nagua (2 plus hrs away)? Hahahahaha
First of all, there is no dominican culture in POP, sosua and cabarete. These are tourist town with resident foreigners who go out with cheap hookers or poor girls from slums, they only know bachata music or listen to merengue which is only suitable for carwash type listening crowd.
Mountian view is a whore house, if you don't believe me, try talking to one of the girls there by the pool. Just look at the architecture of the place, typical whore house syle fixtures all over.
Now if you are going to go all the way to nagua then why is it that not one genious mentioned coming to santiago? only 1hr and 15 mins away through some of the most scenic route of this island. Santiago is full of interesting places ex: jazz bars, open air sports bars/ restaurant, theater, discos, jevito bars and private secret bars where private folks meet. Santiago is the cultural capital of DR where you will find anything and everything in small scale. You want to dance with senoritas then make sure you know how to dance and dress appropriatly and talk a bit of spanish. You will not find cheap poor whores falling all over you like they do in sosua and POP. People in santiago are classy and you will feel right at home of you are looking for this type of social activity. Some of the most beautiful women in DR are from santiago area.
Good luck.
AZB

Thanks AZB for you're insightfull input! I'm already planning to visit Santiago for the Cigaros. You say if I want to dance with the senoritas in Santiago to make sure I know how to dance, dress appropriatly? and talk a bit of spanish. This sounds like good advice, but it also sounds a little intimidating as well? Are you saying I'll be looked down at, as some kind of Gringo loser, if I can't meet the above criteria? Could you name a few good places to go? (I'm in my early 30's if that helps narrow things down)? I assume just like in any other city, or country there are bars/clubs where the local men don't like to see foriegn guys mixing with "there women"? Could you give me the "heads-up" on that situation in Santiago too? Thanks.