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View Poll Results: What's your level of proficiency in Spanish?
Advanced 39 31.71%
Moderate 44 35.77%
Beginner 37 30.08%
I don't speak Spanish at all! 3 2.44%
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Old 09-28-2006, 10:12 AM
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Me speako mucho bueno Spanish.

Una cerveza po favour!.

Does anybody knows "advanced Spanish"?.

I have spoken to people claiming to have "advanced" and even "moderate" knowledge of the language only to have them, after 1 minute, go "what, what, talk slower, I can't understand what you are saying".

I guess everybody have their own definition, until they find themselves talking with someone who truly knows Spanish.
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Old 09-28-2006, 10:33 AM
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Me speako mucho bueno Spanish.

Una cerveza po favour!.
Reminds me of your English.

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Old 09-28-2006, 10:35 AM
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Me speako mucho bueno Spanish.

Una cerveza po favour!.

Does anybody knows "advanced Spanish"?.

I have spoken to people claiming to have "advanced" and even "moderate" knowledge of the language only to have them, after 1 minute, go "what, what, talk slower, I can't understand what you are saying".

I guess everybody have their own definition, until they find themselves talking with someone who truly knows Spanish.

Miguel

Good observation. Based on that I would have to classify myself between moderate and advanced. I generally don't have a problem communicating with the locals but I have found that at times I have had problems communicating with some people and I associate it with of little or no formal education based on the fact that I don't have this proglem when I talk with people such as bank managers, lawyers, doctors, engineers in Spanish exclusively (no cheating) . It seems if I don't ask for something in the manner in which they are accustomed they do the "dominican eye squint" which is actually a good thing because it let's me know they don't understand me. I actually wonder if dominicans actually are conscious of doing it. Furthermore, a dominican friend of mine tells me that it's common for dominicans to purposely "play" amoung themselves that they don't understand in order that they feel superior. Sounds a lot like the some of the people back home in the states when it comes to furriners! Also, I have problems sometimes too if I speak or watch a lot of tv in English because I have a tendency to cut off the Spanish thinking mode.

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Old 09-28-2006, 10:56 AM
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It seems if I don't ask for something in the manner in which they are accustomed they do the "dominican eye squint" which is actually a good thing because it let's me know they don't understand me. I actually wonder if dominicans actually are conscious of doing it. Furthermore, a dominican friend of mine tells me that it's common for dominicans to purposely "play" amoung themselves that they don't understand in order that they feel superior. Sounds a lot like the some of the people back home in the states when it comes to furriners! Also, I have problems sometimes too if I speak or watch a lot of tv in English because I have a tendency to cut off the Spanish thinking mode.

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that's funny that you say that, "the Dominican eye squint" 'cause I do that.
yes some Dominicans tend to do that "relajar mucho".
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:08 AM
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Reminds me of your English.

Larry
How do you know about my English if you have never spoken to me, dick?.

Oh, you mean the way I write in English, I got it.

Well, I bet I speak, read, understand and write better in English than you in Spanish.
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:32 AM
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How do you know about my English if you have never spoken to me, dick?.

Oh, you mean the way I write in English, I got it.

Well, I bet I speak, read, understand and write better in English than you in Spanish.

I know people who have spoken to you..... Heeeey hiya dooing main? Wassaaaap?

I'll bet that after 1 year here, my Spanish is leaps and bounds above your English after your first 10 years in the United States.

I guess the truth hurts, as evidenced by your reaction to my comment.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Classy reaction you had by the way. It was pretty much what I expected.

Now back to ignoring you for another 5 years.

Larry

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Old 09-28-2006, 11:39 AM
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Well, I am advanced enough to realize the quality of spanish spoken varies and some native speakers speak it poorly. Nonnative speakers taking classes are taught formal spanish with an emphasis on proper pronunciation. What we hear from our teachers or language tape is not necessarily what we hear in the real world. I personally struggle at times with caribbean speakers, yet am able to have very complex conversation with an andean speaker because quite frankly they sound a lot closer to what I here from teachers or language tapes. When people start dropping letters or whole syllables in favor of speed then even the most advanced nonnative speaker is going struggle unless they are immersed in that style of speech.

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I have spoken to people claiming to have "advanced" and even "moderate" knowledge of the language only to have them, after 1 minute, go "what, what, talk slower, I can't understand what you are saying".

I guess everybody have their own definition, until they find themselves talking with someone who truly knows Spanish.
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:49 AM
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As Dominican Im out of the pool.
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:50 AM
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...Furthermore, a dominican friend of mine tells me that it's common for dominicans to purposely "play" amoung themselves that they don't understand in order that they feel superior.
Funny, I do the same thing in the DR (especially at customs) and in my neighborhood, which is play that I don't understand Spanish.

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Old 09-28-2006, 11:56 AM
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Funny, I do the same thing in the DR (especially at customs) and in my neighborhood, which is play that I don't understand Spanish.

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I second that when it comes to passing through customs. I'm cien por ciento turista gringo then and "no habloy mouchoy espanyowle"

Chip
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