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View Poll Results: How do you think this will affect Pierre or Pie's public image?
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Positive
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Neither positive nor negative
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02-06-2007, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NALs
For certain that's a plausible possibility, but it's not clear if the two are connected or not.
For that reason, any of the two possibilities (it's connected or it's not connected) are both very real at this moment in time. Perhaps, tomorrow or some other time this confusion is resolved.
Until then, nobody here really knows other than maybe it is or maybe its not connected.
-NALs
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exactly, but lookey here, ...
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Originally Posted by Chirimoya
Mountain out of molehill.
SP's batey-dwelling parents were probably illiterate, so the French "Pierre" became the Kreyol "Pié".
The young girl used a more Spanish-sounding first name like so many immigrants (or children of immigrants) in every country who want to fit in, and as she was more educated than her parents, decides to spell her last name the correct French way - Pierre.
As a campaigner for the rights of Dominico-Haitians, she has nothing to hide - neither the fact that her parents were Haitian (duh) or even the fact they were illegal, because she advocates granting DR nationality to children of undocumented/illegal immigrants anyway.
It's a feeble attempt to discredit her, which will have no effect. People who don't agree with her will continue to fume, and people who share her opinion or don't care either way will think "so what?".
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Originally Posted by NALs
That could certainly be the case. Of course, if it's simply a case of illiterate parents and their educated daughter which brought about this discrepancy in her name, why would this escalate to threats? 
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maybe you should follow your own advice.
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02-06-2007, 05:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NALs
For certain that's a plausible possibility, but it's not clear if the two are connected or not.
For that reason, any of the two possibilities (it's connected or it's not connected) are both very real at this moment in time. Perhaps, tomorrow or some other time this confusion is resolved.
Until then, nobody here really knows other than maybe it is or maybe its not connected.
-NALs
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exactly, but lookey here, ...
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Originally Posted by Chirimoya
Mountain out of molehill.
SP's batey-dwelling parents were probably illiterate, so the French "Pierre" became the Kreyol "Pié".
The young girl used a more Spanish-sounding first name like so many immigrants (or children of immigrants) in every country who want to fit in, and as she was more educated than her parents, decides to spell her last name the correct French way - Pierre.
As a campaigner for the rights of Dominico-Haitians, she has nothing to hide - neither the fact that her parents were Haitian (duh) or even the fact they were illegal, because she advocates granting DR nationality to children of undocumented/illegal immigrants anyway.
It's a feeble attempt to discredit her, which will have no effect. People who don't agree with her will continue to fume, and people who share her opinion or don't care either way will think "so what?".
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Originally Posted by NALs
That could certainly be the case. Of course, if it's simply a case of illiterate parents and their educated daughter which brought about this discrepancy in her name,why would this escalate to threats? 
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maybe you should follow your own advice.
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02-06-2007, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by aegap
exactly, but lookey here, ...
maybe you should follow your own advice.
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Huh?
Where did I stated anything along the lines of people should not veer one way or another? People can veer, but it's all speculation.
Chiri's response is as much a speculative response as my own, but until its proven, either of the two is possible.
Of course, a spokesperson for an NGO that is currently working in Haiti will inevitably fall on one side of the speculation while readers of the news will fall on the other, but until its proven to be one way or another, both are a fair game, as long that both party agree that they are only speculating.
Having said all of that, it is still none-the-less, weird that she still has not corrected her name in official matters. This issue of her name variations was brought up in the Interamerican court as well, when she filed the complaint against the DR a while back.
-NALs
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02-06-2007, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NALs
Of course, a spokesperson for an NGO that is currently working in Haiti will inevitably fall on one side of the speculation while readers of the news will fall on the other...
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...and your point is? The NGO in question also works in the Dominican Republic, and another 90-odd countries.
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02-06-2007, 07:55 PM
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nals...need help thinking of Poll topics??????????????????????????????
I just dont see how it is plausible that ANYTHING positive COULD come out of this new information.....the way i see it it COULD only hurt her. Or nothing changes...but POSITIVE????
you know all the people that opposed her views, but MIGHT have listened, because they thought she was possibly an unbiased non-dominican-hatian,professional......will think they have been hoodwinked. And they will oppose her even more so now....many people of authority in the dominican goverment who are against her views will get a shot of addreneline now to fight her even more...
not even close to being postive.... this aint california! the bleeding heart mecca
bob
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02-07-2007, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by NALs
For certain that's a plausible possibility, but it's not clear if the two are connected or not. For that reason, any of the two possibilities (it's connected or it's not connected) are both very real at this moment in time. -NALs
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 Are you for real?
Say somebody accuses a certain NALs of being behind the Madrid train bombing. At the moment it is not clear you're connected to that event, but it is not absoluteley clear you weren't, so any of the two possibilities are very real at this moment of time.... . If someone would accuse you of being connected to the Madrid train bombings, would you feel it was you who had to prove you are not connected (you destroyed all the evidence didn't you...  ), or should the one accusing you be able to prove your connection? And if he/she couldn't wouldnt you agree that that was slander, and maybe take appropriate steps?
Was this 'story' really worth a poll???
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02-07-2007, 07:34 AM
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Rising to the occasion, occasionaly!
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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This "POLE" Is Just ANOTHER CASE, of Nals Using DR!
to showcase his Personal Agenda!!!!
"Nada Mas y Nada Menos"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like anyone but a Anti-Haitian Dominican Gives a "Rat's A$$" about this!!!
CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCC
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02-07-2007, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Chirimoya
...and your point is? The NGO in question also works in the Dominican Republic, and another 90-odd countries.
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Relax Chiri, I know where the Ox sticks its head in....
-NALs 
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02-07-2007, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by qgrande
 Are you for real?
Say somebody accuses a certain NALs of being behind the Madrid train bombing. At the moment it is not clear you're connected to that event, but it is not absoluteley clear you weren't, so any of the two possibilities are very real at this moment of time.... . If someone would accuse you of being connected to the Madrid train bombings, would you feel it was you who had to prove you are not connected (you destroyed all the evidence didn't you...  ), or should the one accusing you be able to prove your connection? And if he/she couldn't wouldnt you agree that that was slander, and maybe take appropriate steps?
Was this 'story' really worth a poll???
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The accuser should be able to prove it.
And if it turns out to be false, well then, there is only one thing that can be done and it's called APOLOGY.
The story was not worth a poll, but the opinions of DR1ers certainly is. A poll makes it easier to grasp where many DR1ers stand concerning this issue.
-NALs
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02-07-2007, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by NALs
Relax Chiri, I know where the Ox sticks its head in....
-NALs 
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Been doing some detective work, have we?
Even if these non-accusations are true they have a perfectly reasonable explanation - so what would be the motive for the break-ins?
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