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View Poll Results: How do you think this will affect Pierre or Pie's public image?
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02-10-2007, 08:59 AM
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You forgot something, the agreement with the Iner American Court have not been sing yet for the Dominican Goverment and the Congress, so that process was not legal for the Dominican Goverment and that is why the girls are still in a Limbo, but they can get the Haitian citizen their constitution said that are Haitian all childs borns from Haitian
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02-10-2007, 09:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by riravaga
You forgot something, the agreement with the Iner American Court have not been sing yet for the Dominican Goverment and the Congress, so that process was not legal for the Dominican Goverment and that is why the girls are still in a Limbo, but they can get the Haitian citizen their constitution said that are Haitian all childs borns from Haitian
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I was recently told in Azua that the authorities (military) manning checkpoints along the road to the border, are resorting again to the old device of asking 'Haitian-looking' passengers on buses to pronnounce 'perejil', in order to detect illegal ('in transit') immigrants, considering that around 35% of the region's population lack IDs in the form of birth certificates, and/or cédula. Also, bus drivers are not being fined anymore for transporting 'in transit' immigrants.
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02-10-2007, 09:19 AM
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I will never ceased to be amazed at the primitive anti-Haitian paranoia among the dominican elite !!!
Even the ones in Conneticut still fear the "very real" unification of the island under Haitian rule, planned since the very begining, night & day, by France, Canada, and the USA...
-So what happens everytime a dominican of haitian descent gets some exposure in the world medias ?
Well it is always the same, those good folks from the dominican elite come rushing to invent some story about her !
Those good folks would do a good job remembering their Syrian and Lebanese grand-parents who came here as immigrants in the late 19th century and the early 20th century.
No one is a pure Taino down here !
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02-10-2007, 09:38 AM
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The fates of Haiti and the Dominican Republic are inextricably tied... Here's an interesting article (from the non mainstream media) on the current situation...
Haiti: Terrible Repression of Occupaying Forces |
02-10-2007, 02:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by riravaga
You forgot something, the agreement with the Iner American Court have not been sing yet for the Dominican Goverment and the Congress, so that process was not legal for the Dominican Goverment and that is why the girls are still in a Limbo, but they can get the Haitian citizen their constitution said that are Haitian all childs borns from Haitian
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Whether the Inter-American court had jurisdiction or not is not an issue. What was at issue was whether or not these children are Dominican citizens. The state, on September 25, 2001, recognized these children as Dominican citizens and granted birth certificate to each. These children are not in limbo in this respect.
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02-10-2007, 05:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirador
The fates of Haiti and the Dominican Republic are inextricably tied... Here's an interesting article (from the non mainstream media) on the current situation...
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a more credible source:
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02-10-2007, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aegap
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Credible? Can't get more mainstream media than the New York Times. Might as well check with the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans...
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02-10-2007, 05:38 PM
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..more credible
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02-12-2007, 06:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NotLurking
Whether the Inter-American court had jurisdiction or not is not an issue. What was at issue was whether or not these children are Dominican citizens. The state, on September 25, 2001, recognized these children as Dominican citizens and granted birth certificate to each. These children are not in limbo in this respect.
NotLurking
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I would also like to add that even though the girls received their birth certificates the litigation continued in order to
1. compel the government to repair the damage done caused by its arbitrary denial of the two girls nationality up until that point.
2. win reparations of "non repetition". ie an order from the Court to get the DR to reform its system of birth registration which continues to systematically violate children's right to nationality today.
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