DR1ers and their Social Class

[BushBaby]

You & I have different ways of looking at most things CC but in this case we tend to agree (Sorry!!). M'thinks the man doth protest too much thereby confirming his own position!!

He only met my maid once (& being the snooty person he is did not communicate with her) so how would HE know the level of her knowledge & perception? How pugnacious of him!! How terribly 'Lower Class trying to be better class'!!

On my oft visits to 'The Centre of the Universe' I will now be pleased to ask those I speak to as to their knowledge of this 'High Roller in Dominican Society' & report back accordingly. I started responding in humour & jesting with the poor, bigoted sole. The laughter is still there within me, however the cause of the laughter has shifted somewhat!! ~ Grahame.

[AnnaC]

Nice to see the focus being taken off Nals

[AZB]

Originally Posted by BushBaby

He only met my maid once (& being the snooty person he is did not communicate with her) so how would HE know the level of her knowledge & perception? How pugnacious of him!! How terribly 'Lower Class trying to be better class'!! Grahame.

I see things simply, her level of knowledge is exactly in level with the knowledge of a maid. thats why she is a maid and not a journalist. Now here is a question to all of you folks who live in DR.
Are you all folks seriously impressed with your maid's level of intelligence? hahahaha
Give me a break grahame.
AZB

[bdaric]

I think of itelligence as someones potential.

Someone I know well, left Sussex University with a degree in Physics, he needed some quick money, so with his good brain for numbers got a "temporary" job dealing cards in a Brighton Casino.
He never left the business and wound up as Southern Regional Director for entertainment in Britain for the company he worked for.
My point is, the high rollers, probably important and or wealthy folk no doubt would not have given him a second thought in a pecking order if held in the Casino at that time.
He however, could quite arguably be considered as the smartest or most intelligent person in the joint!(and an expert in low temp physics in his field)
If you know nothing about mechanics how smart are you compared to the guy who fixes your bike?
I'd say its all relative........(a little Einsteinism)
So instead of putting oneself on a pillar above others and looking down on those less fortunate, be a little more forgiving for peoples faults. They may not be as bad or evil as you think.......

[BushBaby]

Originally Posted by AZB

I see things simply, her level of knowledge is exactly in level with the knowledge of a maid. thats why she is a maid and not a journalist. Now here is a question to all of you folks who live in DR.
Are you all folks seriously impressed with your maid's level of intelligence? hahahaha
Give me a break grahame.
AZB

As the barrister was heard to say to the panel of Judges in front of him when winning his argument .............
"My Lords, I rest my case. Inverted snobbery has been proven". ~ Grahame.

[Lambada]

Originally Posted by Criss Colon

AZB,get a new "schtick" ! Your "Sosua" is filled with "low Life Hookers,being chased by ignorant drunken "Gringos" is getting just a "LITTLE" repetative!
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That's true CCCC, it does get a little boring when repeated so often. But you've got to understand where it stems from. We've all chosen to live in a society which displays to a varying degree sexism, classism & racism. Perhaps more so than our countries of origin. We all have our own ways of handling this as we have adjusted to life here. But there are some factors we cannot change and one is the colour of our skins. Sometimes those very colours will act as a barrier to being really accepted by Dominican 'elites'. Those of us who are white have a much easier time than those of us who aren't. So let the warm & fuzzy side of you surface, CCCC, & go easy on AZB. He's battling something which isn't in his power to change.

And in case Nals thinks this is off topic, how the host society views an expats' social class is possibly more relevant to living here than the expats own perception.

[BushBaby]

Originally Posted by Lambada

......... But there are some factors we cannot change and one is the colour of our skins. Sometimes those very colours will act as a barrier to being really accepted by Dominican 'elites'. Those of us who are white have a much easier time than those of us who aren't. So let the warm & fuzzy side of you surface, CCCC, & go easy on AZB. He's battling something which isn't in his power to change.

Ahhhh, so it WASN'T Aftab shunning our maid after all?? It was HER shunning HIM!!! Probably the same problem at John's daughters wedding where the girls were left on their own at the table? Maybe that is why business was so quiet for him up here too? Sorry AZB, didn't realise that small problem!!

I think NALs has given up on us here which is a pity as it started off as such an interesting thread! Social class & Breeding is very important to Dominicans! ~Grahame.

[Chirimoya]

Originally Posted by BushBaby

As the barrister was heard to say to the panel of Judges in front of him when winning his argument .............
"My Lords, I rest my case. Inverted snobbery has been proven". ~ Grahame.

I take issue with the "inverted" bit, m'lud.

[manunut]

Originally Posted by bob saunders

Your economic figures do not line up with education or class for that matter. For example most drug dealers bring considerable more than a university professor or a banking excutive. An oil worker in northern Canada brings $10,000 dollars per month, not much education required. I've seen poor people with more " class " in their little finger than many millionairs have. Social Class is more than the amount of money you have.

gotta go with this one above.money DOES NOT buy you class.just look around you at the people with that little bit more than others.
95% have there heads stuck up their @zz's and i certainly would not "value"the opinion of a awful nbr of these "witch folks": unless its a narrow minded (imo)tight @zz,and more narrow minded view than from your salt of the earth types.and i have met the top to the bottom.
having said that REALLY rich people who have had it in the family for generations and therefore KNOW how to behave with ALL people are good people to be around.but your newbie rich or "most'MIDDLE CLASS'S are still trying to figure out "how" they should act.
and behaving like a "snob"(ha,ha)does not show class or intellegence.quite the contrary in fact.:

[A.Hidalgo]

Originally Posted by bdaric

I think of itelligence as someones potential.

Someone I know well, left Sussex University with a degree in Physics, he needed some quick money, so with his good brain for numbers got a "temporary" job dealing cards in a Brighton Casino.
He never left the business and wound up as Southern Regional Director for entertainment in Britain for the company he worked for.
My point is, the high rollers, probably important and or wealthy folk no doubt would not have given him a second thought in a pecking order if held in the Casino at that time.
He however, could quite arguably be considered as the smartest or most intelligent person in the joint!(and an expert in low temp physics in his field)
If you know nothing about mechanics how smart are you compared to the guy who fixes your bike?
I'd say its all relative........(a little Einsteinism)
So instead of putting oneself on a pillar above others and looking down on those less fortunate, be a little more forgiving for peoples faults. They may not be as bad or evil as you think.......

Hey this is written by a relatively newbie. Don't pay attention to this, he or she has low status here!!!
According to the gospel of NALs: post Number 26 verse 15


imho a very well thought out and written post