DR1ers and their Social Class

[NALs]

Here is one of those polls where DR1ers get to know with what type of audience we are dealing with on these boards in a general sense. Obviously, such polls are not based to give the full reality of the socio-economic class various members of this website belong to in the society they live in. To be able to do that, every single person (including non-members of DR1) would have to be forced to vote on their socio-economic class standing and that is quite frankly impossible and even if it was possible, it would not be permissible in anycase.

However, such poll will give all of us an idea or a base from which we can use to better address the members of this site whenever we want to discuss any topic. Such poll can also give us a base from which we can extrapolate some "theories" or explanations for why the general concensus on this site goes one way or another on various aspects, etc.

In short, such polls allows DR1ers to get to know who they are dealing with.
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POLL: What socio-economic class do you belong to in the society you live?

(The image below shows the options and the description. Please, choose the option that best fits your reality. For the sake of simplicity, we will use the American socio-economic class system. Ignore the income ranges if you don't live in the US, but everything else stands for this poll. Also, the percentages on the left side of the image represents the percentage of US population which are in such category).

BTW: If you are retired, simply choose the category that would had best fit your position the last time you were part of the work force.


Source: Socioeconomic Class

-NALs

[Lambada]

Originally Posted by NALs

In short, such polls allows DR1ers to get to know who they are dealing with. -NALs

What makes you think we need a class categorisation in order to 'know who we are dealing with'?

[NALs]

Originally Posted by Lambada

What makes you think we need a class categorisation in order to 'know who we are dealing with'?

People from different social-economic background tend to see the world differently, this is particularly true when it concerns political, economic, or social issues and what would be the best way to correct them.

If we know where a good number of DR1ers stand in terms of their socio-economic standing, then we will be able to better understand their own personal opinions, reactions, and/or other forms of persuasion regarding various subjects concerning the DR and its problems.

I don't know if other DR1ers have noticed this, but there is a class system on DR1.com itself! Where a member stands in terms of his DR1 class affects what he/she may say, how the person addresses others, and how much influence the person may have over various aspects of this website. Similarly to real life, where a person stands on the DR1 hierarchy affects the way the person expresses him/herself here and affects the way they perceive many things about this website, how it works, and may or may not challenge the hierarchy itself.

-NALs

[bob saunders]

Your economic figures do not line up with education or class for that matter. For example most drug dealers bring considerable more than a university professor or a banking excutive. An oil worker in northern Canada brings $10,000 dollars per month, not much education required. I've seen poor people with more " class " in their little finger than many millionairs have. Social Class is more than the amount of money you have.

[NALs]

Originally Posted by bob saunders

Your economic figures do not line up with education or class for that matter. For example most drug dealers bring considerable more than a university professor or a banking excutive. An oil worker in northern Canada brings $10,000 dollars per month, not much education required. I've seen poor people with more " class " in their little finger than many millionairs have. Social Class is more than the amount of money you have.

As with everything, there are exeptions to every rule.

However, their is a positive relationship between education and income as well as between class and the chances of getting a good education which leads to greater chances of earning higher incomes. This has been proven multiple times in study after study.

And yes, a drug dealer may earn more than an executive, but a drug dealer will never be of the same status as an executive. Part of the reason has to do with why a drug dealer may have a higher income than an executive.

A drug dealer is being compensated for the extremely risky business he runs whereas an executive is compensated for his extremely rare skills and qualifications. In the long run, drug dealers come and go, good executives remain and if we were to tabulate life-time earnings between the two, an executive could very well earn more over the course of his life than would a drug dealer. In part that is true because sooner or later drug dealers are "taken out of business" either by the "competition" or the law catches up to them and from that moment forward, their income stream ends. With an executive, unless he veers into illicit means, will continue to have his income stream.

Regarding your example of a Canadian oil worker, again its a function of demand and supply. One of the following must be true: either oil workers are scarce in Canada (this could be due to difficulty for most people to attain the proper training necessary or the training itself is rigurous or the risks involved are such that most people are aversed to such job, etc) or current oil workers are creating an artificial scarcity via unions (or some other manipulation on the supply side).

Regardless, an oil worker will never be in the same social class as an executive, eventhough the oil worker could be living a much more comfortable lifestyle.

An executive probably has a greater chance of influencing the local, regional, or national governmental policies than does an oil worker. The opinion of an executive could be valued many times more by ordinary people and people in power than would the opinion of an oil worker or a drug dealer, etc despite the high incomes and lifestyles.

A person's social standing is more than simple income or education levels. However, the higher the education level, the higher the income, the higher the status tends to be of such person. Such person's status is not due to one of those aspects, but rather to the combination of all those aspects.

-NALs

[dv8]

gee, i am now waiting for the poll: who pays the damn bills? you or your dominican spouse?
poll forum is getting curioser and curioser...

[NALs]

Originally Posted by dv8

gee, i am now waiting for the poll: who pays the damn bills? you or your dominican spouse?
poll forum is getting curioser and curioser...

Funny you mention that.

A certain DR1er PMed me recently suggesting a new poll topic. I have not decided if I will create such poll, but perhaps I will, I simply need to word it well to avoid the avalanche of criticisms.

Anyways, its not about "paying bills", but rather "who sleeps with whom"... hmmm...

-NALs

[dv8]

new poll: are you a buyer or supplier?
LOL

[vince1956]

Originally Posted by NALs

Funny you mention that.

A certain DR1er PMed me recently suggesting a new poll topic. I have not decided if I will create such poll, but perhaps I will, I simply need to word it well to avoid the avalanche of criticisms.

Anyways, its not about "paying bills", but rather "who sleeps with whom"... hmmm...

-NALs

Was it me again which one of the two? ha ha

[Lambada]

Originally Posted by NALs

People from different social-economic background tend to see the world differently, this is particularly true when it concerns political, economic, or social issues and what would be the best way to correct them.

If we know where a good number of DR1ers stand in terms of their socio-economic standing, then we will be able to better understand their own personal opinions, reactions, and/or other forms of persuasion regarding various subjects concerning the DR and its problems.

I don't know if other DR1ers have noticed this, but there is a class system on DR1.com itself! Where a member stands in terms of his DR1 class affects what he/she may say, how the person addresses others, and how much influence the person may have over various aspects of this website. Similarly to real life, where a person stands on the DR1 hierarchy affects the way the person expresses him/herself here and affects the way they perceive many things about this website, how it works, and may or may not challenge the hierarchy itself.

-NALs

Sweetie, bless you but I didn't need the explanation. Rhetorical questions are social class neutral methinks. Now.............how to tell when a question is rhetorical? Hmmmm............maybe we should have a poll on it........?