Comparison Please

[dr_qt]

Whe I read some of the comments here about how bad it is to be dating a resort worker, it leaves me with a few questions.
First of all let me admit that I had met one and had a "relationship" with him, but I have learned alot about Sankies, found out he was one and ended it.

My questions are:

What are the comparisons one could make with North America to make us understand how a resort worker is so different from the average Dominican?
(Would it be like dating someone who worked at McDonald's or dating a guy on welfare)?

How is it that Sankies can be so proud of their conquests that they brag to others about it when it is supposedly so shameful a thing in the DR?
(This I've read many times here)

I guess it is just very difficult for me to understand the mindset of these people.

[Berzin]

My questions are:

Q) What are the comparisons one could make with North America to make us understand how a resort worker is so different from the average Dominican?
(Would it be like dating someone who worked at McDonald's or dating a guy on welfare)?

A) There is no comparison. In North America it is not culturally the norm to shower a man with gifts and pay for a night out. We call this a pimp and pimps are the scum of the earth.

-A guy here on welfare will be dating a loser like himself or he will be alone. Unless the guy got caught out in bad life circumstances and is using the help because he needs it and is in school or some type of training program. Sankies are not like this. They are out to sweet talk their way to gain material possessions and eventually that visa.

-Women who date sankies care about dating a younger guy with a tight body. Doesn't matter whether he is cute or not, just as long as he fits the stereotype of the virile dark-skinned tropical native who is great in bed and has a large member. No corresponding comparisons can be made as this does not exist for the most part in North America.

Q) How is it that Sankies can be so proud of their conquests that they brag to others about it when it is supposedly so shameful a thing in the DR?
(This I've read many times here)

A) Of course they are proud and brag about their conquests. If you are vermin, would you rather be a cockroach or a waterbug? Sankies are the waterbugs in their world, which is infested and populated with vermin. They are the big shots, so of course they will brag. Even vermin need to feel like they are somebody.

-And when they brag about their conquests its sort of like drug dealers bragging about how big a house they have or how nice a car they drive. Drug dealers may be scum, but their cash gets them respect in certain circles just like it does the sankie.



Q) I guess it is just very difficult for me to understand the mindset of these people.[/quote]

A) I was talking to a very beautiful dominican chica here in NYC. Shes' pretty and knows it. Even though she works she would rather not. She was talking about a friend of hers back in Santo Domingo who is being taken care of by and old man.The guy buys her everything, apartment, credit cards, the works. She spoke about her friend with envy.

-Its' like anything else in life-why work for something you want when you can just lay down for it? From the viewpoint of the sankie it is the same. Girls here in the atates do it all the time, except in the DR the roles are reversed with the sankie.

[dr_qt]

-Women who date sankies care about dating a younger guy with a tight body. Doesn't matter whether he is cute or not, just as long as he fits the stereotype of the virile dark-skinned tropical native who is great in bed and has a large member. No corresponding comparisons can be made as this does not exist for the most part in North America

Not all, myself and some of the women I have met dating a resort worker, are young, attractive, and have nice bodies. I am also bronze skinned, I blended in with Dominicans easily.

A) I was talking to a very beautiful dominican chica here in NYC. Shes' pretty and knows it. Even though she works she would rather not. She was talking about a friend of hers back in Santo Domingo who is being taken care of by and old man.The guy buys her everything, apartment, credit cards, the works. She spoke about her friend with envy.

That's the point, I could easily date an older man for his money, but it would be GROSS to me to do that


-Its' like anything else in life-why work for something you want when you can just lay down for it?

Because I would never be able to repect myself if I did that

I don't think my questions have been answered.

[Berzin]

Are you looking for someone to tell you what you want to hear, or the truth?

If you look at the statistics, females who engage in sex tourism are older white ladies from the west. Most are past their sell-by date and are looking for companionship, sex with a young dark-skinned male and validation of their self-worth.

They have disposable incomes and are lonely. You and your friends, if you are so young and attractive, yet you "date" these types of men, are more than likely the same type of girls who flash their breasts and act like fools on those "Girls Gone Wild" videos that are so popular here in the states.

If you date guys with no class, you yourself have no class. Rummaging in the garbage for something to eat when you can have dinner in a nice restaurant makes you a bum, like it or not.

And just because you say you are young and nice-looking doesn't make you a prize worth catching if you date sankies.

Is that enough of an explanation for you?

[aimelove]

Originally Posted by Berzin

Are you looking for someone to tell you what you want to hear, or the truth?

If you look at the statistics, females who engage in sex tourism are older white ladies from the west. Most are past their sell-by date and are looking for companionship, sex with a young dark-skinned male and validation of their self-worth.

They have disposable incomes and are lonely. You and your friends, if you are so young and attractive, yet you "date" these types of men, are more than likely the same type of girls who flash their breasts and act like fools on those "Girls Gone Wild" videos that are so popular here in the states.

If you date guys with no class, you yourself have no class. Rummaging in the garbage for something to eat when you can have dinner in a nice restaurant makes you a bum, like it or not.

And just because you say you are young and nice-looking doesn't make you a prize worth catching if you date sankies.

Is that enough of an explanation for you?

This whole thread is kind of sad, rediculous and intriguing at the same time to me now. I went back and checked and I guess this Sankie thread has been going on for a while. How widespread is this Sankie thing anyway in the resorts to warrant such extended discussion? Where, when and why would any woman submit to being interviewed for a survey that would result in "female sex tourism" statistics? ("Miss, we are interrupting your vacation to ask your why you are having sex with hotel workers you are totally incompatible with. Your answers will become part of a research project") I did read a study about sex tourists in Boca Chica. Was there one done about Sankies as well? I'd like to read it. Who wrote it? Sankeism is not illegal unless you are found to defraud the immigration process, so you could not check arrest records. I am going to have to conclude that the previous posts use of "statistics" was a bogus stunt used to bolster his/her argument. I am calling your bluff. Show me where you got your stats. Not to say I don't agree with most of the opinions I read. I am just saying that you went overboard and are generalizing and stereotyping. And you are using stats that I am almost certain you never read. Go ahead and say "you don't live here". I know, so tell me how to get my hands on those stats.

[2LeftFeet]

I guess it's one thing to go to the DR and meet a guy and have a fling. Then you leave it as that. Maybe if you live close enough you might go back a couple of times for some fun but that's about it. Usually you both realize that it's not going to go anywhere so you both let it be.

A sankie is a slug. THEY have no shame. They lie, cheat, steal, and con. They will tell you you are beautiful when you are ugly as sin, they will tell you what YOU want to hear to get YOU to give them what THEY want--- MONEY or the coveted VISA. They know that the relationship really won't go anywhere but they have to make you believe that it will. If they don't they won't get what they want.


If you are young and pretty that's better. At least they find you attractive. Wouldn't you prefer to have sex with someone that's attractive?? I guess the down side is you don't have that much money but in comparison to them you do.

IMO they can be compared to ghetto thugs. People that work in McDonalds at least have a job and if you are on welfare you had to fill out the paperwork to get it.

They brag about their conquests to other sankies. They aren't hob nobbing with every day Dominicans. They brag because the don't have any class. "My "GF" sent me $100 this money. Well mine sent me sneakers or an Ipod."

They know their place in society. Decent Domincan don't want to deal with them.

They are perpetrators. Con artists.

Two of my co-workers are Dominicanas. We were talking about Sankies one day. They don't want to have ANYTHING to do with them. The think that they are vile creatures.

Would you associate with street thugs and criminals where you live?? Would you date a thug??? Would you bring a barrio thug home to meet Mom?

If you would then a sankie is right up your alley.

That's what I equate them to. Some people might not agree with me but that's my opinion.

[Berzin]

I am going to have to conclude that the previous posts use of "statistics" was a bogus stunt used to bolster his/her argument. I am calling your bluff. Show me where you got your stats. Not to say I don't agree with most of the opinions I read. I am just saying that you went overboard and are generalizing and stereotyping. And you are using stats that I am almost certain you never read. Go ahead and say "you don't live here". I know, so tell me how to get my hands on those stats.[/quote]

An article written in Rolling Stone magazine highlighting female sex tourism in Jamaica and another one from Vanity Fair magazine on the western coast of Africa and the boom in sex tourism between male africans and western european white women.

These articles had pictures of the women posing with their boyfriends and the stories were told from both sides.

What I said were not statistics per se, as there is no way anyone can obtain firm numbers on actual sex tourism. I never claimed I had concrete numbers and never quoted numbers. These were generalizations made by the writers of these two articles.

Now if you need to read those articles because you don't believe a word I say do the research yourself at your local public library. The information is there, go look for it.

[dr_qt]

Berzin, My first question was about how dating a resort worker compared, not specifically seeking out a sankie. I have seen the older, overwieght women with young men in the DR and understand what you were refering to in those cases.
I don't have friends who date sankies, I met people on vacation who had boyfriends that worked in resorts and some of those women were young and attractive, not sex tourists.

[2LeftFeet]

I don't think younger women necessarily think that the men that they are with are sankies. I think that THEY go into it with good intentions and then find out that the person that they are with is not honorable.-- usually the hard way.

Why would you possible think this??-- that he is conning you. For the most part this doesn't exist in your respective country. People normally don't do this. You are not looking for this behavior and expecting it.--but then again in your own country you aren't hanging out with these types of people.

In your own country you would recognize the behavior and run.

Maybe now they've expanded to younger women. They are more attractive and more naive. Younger women have more disposable income nowadays and can and do travel more-- Hence come in contact with them more frequently.

An older woman theoretically has more experience and might catch on quicker or might know the deal and end it sooner.

I'm still waiting for that woman's book to be published on sankies. As soon as it does I'll let everyone know. I haven't forgotten.

The bottom line is they are SLUGS.

[aimelove]

Originally Posted by Berzin

I am going to have to conclude that the previous posts use of "statistics" was a bogus stunt used to bolster his/her argument. I am calling your bluff. Show me where you got your stats. Not to say I don't agree with most of the opinions I read. I am just saying that you went overboard and are generalizing and stereotyping. And you are using stats that I am almost certain you never read. Go ahead and say "you don't live here". I know, so tell me how to get my hands on those stats.

An article written in Rolling Stone magazine highlighting female sex tourism in Jamaica and another one from Vanity Fair magazine on the western coast of Africa and the boom in sex tourism between male africans and western european white women.

These articles had pictures of the women posing with their boyfriends and the stories were told from both sides.

What I said were not statistics per se, as there is no way anyone can obtain firm numbers on actual sex tourism. I never claimed I had concrete numbers and never quoted numbers. These were generalizations made by the writers of these two articles.

Now if you need to read those articles because you don't believe a word I say do the research yourself at your local public library. The information is there, go look for it.[/quote]







Just like my lovely President. Just say "research shows" and assume people will believe you. I shouldn't have to do any further research because you said you had the stats. Of course you can't obtain firm numbers on sex tourism...and comparing the behaviors of Jamaicans and Africans to Dominicans just doesn't work. All people of African origin aren't the same. I just wanted to read your excuse for citing research in your post. "Just go to your local public library." is a device I also use for my students when they ask me a question for which I don't know the answer.

Bottom line is that SOME hotel workers are up to no good and SOME white women from the west on vacation are looking for some interracial excitement. It happens SOMETIMES. That does not shock or interest me a great deal. What interests me is why would some women who had their heart broken spend so much time venting over past dating mistakes under the guise of "helping others"? Did it hurt that bad? Didn't some of you realize that it may not be a smart long term decision? Its kind of like having a thread where people talk about getting fat after eating ice cream 3 times a day for a month. Get over it. Its the healthy thing to do.

In the US we have no shortage of relationship experts in pop culture (Oprah, Dr. Phil, Cristina etc.etc.) It hasn't stopped our divorce rate from staying around 50 percent (a real stat). People are going to do what they are going to do. Especially when they are lonely. So, call a spade a spade. Just admit you were hurt and move on.