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Old 11-26-2007, 01:08 PM
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despite the warning signs and terror alerts about sankies on DR1 why do some people still get scammed ? are the sankies that good ??
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:37 PM
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despite the warning signs and terror alerts about sankies on DR1 why do some people still get scammed ? are the sankies that good ??

A lot of people find this site after they are hooked and it's hard to admit that they too might end up a victim.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:39 PM
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Well I don't think that everyone who comes to the DR checks out DR1 first. Those that do, usually come in after they have been sankied.

But that brings up a point. That problem with the "victims" is, that most tend to be the type of tourist who's research consists of, what food is available at the AI buffet, what kind of room service they get with their package, excursions, and what the weather is like. People don't bother to do any research on the country they are going to, which might give them some sort of insight on SOME of the people they will meet.

Somebody going to the DR and getting "sankied" is comparable to somebody going to the wrong place in the US with expensive jewlery on and getting robbed. They can both use the excuse "I didn't know...", but it could have easily been prevented with a little research.

What I was saying with regards to "needing to become a victim" is along the lines of "once bitten, twice shy." Some people don't calculate possible outcomes, and only learn by trial and error, well, if that's the case, let them learn from their errors.

I first went to the DR in January on a 4 month work assignment. I did my research, and economic and social indicators told me to keep my guard. Before anyone gave me any warnings about sankies, I had told myself that a) in peoples eyes I was going to be Uruguayan, and not Canadian (I have dual citizenship, so it's ok. b) I was a volunteer and making little money (although I was making decent money). C) I left my nice watch at home, and only wore it on special occasions. and D) Unless I got to know someone well enough, I wouldn't tell them that I had used to work for canadian immigration. I had made a decision that if I were going to meet girls, that I was going to meet good girls, and not women interested in money or Visas - If I wanted to play that game it would have been way too easy.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that information is power. Having the right information will help you steer away from bad decisions. When you leave your country, things change, you should be prepared to adapt to the change. Unfortunately, most are prepared to drink their faces of and engage in "care-free" fun.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:44 PM
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Getting scammed by a sanky is no stranger than getting sucked into Super Keno, an impossible game to win.
One cannot expect tourists to know all the dangers.
If you put out the full list, they wouldn't even come.
These are not people looking to become victims.
They are innocent and the sanky is guilty.
I suggest removing one testicle for the first offense, the other for a second offense.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:47 PM
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I suggest removing one testicle for the first offense, the other for a second offense.

As painful as that sounds it did make me laugh.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:55 PM
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all of this info is great! my first trip to the DR was in july for a stagette/bachelorette party with 5 girls. i did a bit of research before i left and knew a bit about sanky panky but had no idea how bad it could be until we arrived and some of the resort workers flocked towards us gals. at first we didnt think anything of it but as we went along with our trip it was abundantly clear that some of these guys saw us all as opportunities (for money, sex, both...i dont know for sure) but at the end of the day reading some of the stories on DR1 did open up my eyes and i did tell the other girls about it...none of us were "sankified" but when i was in the DR again last week, i could see nothing had changed. same old, same old.

if anything at all, girls (and guys) need to remember that whether you fall for a sanky or not, there is another bunch of potential victims on the next flight in so you just have to be smart about things. falling in love with someone in a week doesnt usually happen back home so dont expect it to when you're on vacation and you're perspective may be a big jaded.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:58 PM
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all of this info is great! my first trip to the DR was in july for a stagette/bachelorette party with 5 girls. i did a bit of research before i left and knew a bit about sanky panky but had no idea how bad it could be until we arrived and some of the resort workers flocked towards us gals. at first we didnt think anything of it but as we went along with our trip it was abundantly clear that some of these guys saw us all as opportunities (for money, sex, both...i dont know for sure) but at the end of the day reading some of the stories on DR1 did open up my eyes and i did tell the other girls about it...none of us were "sankified" but when i was in the DR again last week, i could see nothing had changed. same old, same old.

if anything at all, girls (and guys) need to remember that if you dont fall for it, there is another bunch of potential victims on the next flight in so you just have to be smart about things.
And that's what makes it all worthwhile.
If DR1 posters were to save just one person per year, it would be worth it.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:13 PM
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Rocky - I agree with Anne C., removing a testicle for each offense sounds painful but made me smile too!
Interestingly enough I've got mixed feelings about this sanky scam. (I admit, sometimes I over analyze things ) You see, I went to DR in October AFTER doing lots of research about the country, people, etc. through other sites and books available. At that time I did not find dr1.com or any other information about sankies. As the previous poster indicated (Sascha), the resort workers (and other NON-resort workers) flocked towards my girlfriends and me (all single, all first timers to DR). We took it with a grain of salt since none of us had just "fallen off the turnip truck" . Those of us that wanted a little "fun" participated to the extent we were comfortable with and those of us not interested didn't "play" . We talked every day about what each of us observed and/or experienced, sharing our suspicions on the games being played with us . We were even able to watch other friends of these men as they "worked" a cover for the sanky in question. My point is...none of us thought we were going to fall in love....none of us were so ignorant that we didn't know what was going on....those that wanted to spent money or "played" while there...BUT NONE of us would be willing to send money or other things to these guys from our home country. Now, just speculating here, but if we were to return to DR (and we probably will) I'm not saying some of us wouldn't participate to the same extent again. Is it wrong? Probably. But who's wrong? I don't know. I suppose both parties are to a certain extent. Certainly the sankies are wrong for trying to scam....all the time pretending to be so sincere. But maybe we were wrong too, by enabling the sanky habit.
(BTW - the man I became FRIENDS with was very upfront with me - as I was with him - about what our friendship entailed and what it didn't. We both knew we weren't falling in love when I took him out to dinner on two occasions. I enjoyed his company and was able to learn a lot more about DR culture, etc. by asking questions, etc. I have to think he enjoyed my company too - granted I WAS paying for his dinner, but we laughed, had fun, shared stories of growing up - some sad, etc. and after ONLY dinner he accepted another invitation to repeat the same experience again. My memories are good ones, but now that I've read so much here I find myself re-evaluating everything we shared - right or wrong - who's to say?)
Now that I've opened up myself to much judgment and controversy, I will end this lengthy reply by saying my time in the DR was life altering for me, in many ways, and I hope to return soon to learn/experience more.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:42 PM
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If your guy was upfront and honest - he was a different type of sanky. The guy I met as I said before actually pretended he was genuinely interested in me as a human being, wanted me to have a good time and took me to a Carnaval in La Vega saying he was going there to see his sister. And then the scam started - he said someone stole his wallet and ID so he has no money left. I felt guilty and responsible because he was there because of me. As I understand he thought it all through. I just feel sorry for his family and friends - they have to deal with his lies every day. I am glad I found out!
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:35 PM
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....whether you fall for a sanky or not, there is another bunch of potential victims on the next flight in...
Although I have often referred to them as victims myself I now tend to see them as customers who are eager 'to fall in love' and pay....

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