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Old 05-08-2008, 08:45 AM
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Some possible questions that might be part of seller's disclosure:
1) Do you know of any smelly, rotten pond smells?
2) Do you know of any smells coming from burning of rotten food, garbage or toxic waste?
3) Are you aware of raw sewage leeching into your property? Solid waste?

Enough.
You forgot to mention the river but to answer all of the above, these problems are known and are being taken care off.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:10 AM
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The smell is from the pond and in what way they take care about this smell.
I think it is impossible to resolve this problem.
In what way they can taken away the pondgasses?
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:13 AM
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I have seen on google-earth.
And I haven seen where they want to construct Costa del Sol.
The Nord-East Passat blows directly the pondgasses in the direction from Costa del Sol.
But when the buyers come in day-time, perhaps they buy a condo.
But if they made a good examination they will never buy a condo there.
And one time more: To resolve this problem from MOTHER NATURE (the pondgasses) is impossible.
(sorry for my bad English)
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:29 AM
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You forgot to mention the river but to answer all of the above, these problems are known and are being taken care off.
Frank--I really don't give a rat's arse about the buying and selling of property in JD and responded more from a point of view as a "real estate person".

"These problems are known" is NOT a disclosure statement. A disclosure statement signed by builder or seller is a legal obligation to "disclose 'problems' ". But I guess in your country you don't do things that way.

BTW--Frank you know me. When I stayed at Embassy Suites you showed me an apartment over at (name) where the shuttle bus goes.
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:04 PM
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can u give one fact that this problem is being taken care of instead of just bs words.
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:49 PM
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The bad smell comes from Ingenio Colon where they make the sugar which also belongs to the richest family in the DR and from what I've been informed they will place filters in order to get rid of that smell.
This has to be done in the near future.
Concerning the river from what I understood they've started today with the clean up.
It's a process that will take awhile but it's going the right direction.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:07 PM
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It is possible that it comes from the sugarfactory, because I smell it always near this factory.
Me was told, it was from a pond.
But perhaps Frank have right.
Also I hope so.
I hope they put very soon the filters.
If I don't smell it any more. I shall put it in this topic.
This smell don't come to Juan Dolio.
This smell is to far away.
I smell it already 14 years.
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:57 PM
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I've not been checking this board recently but am glad to see the discussion of that awful smell and putrid air. First, YES, there are negative consequences of this: asthma, allergic rhinitis, exacerbation of COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease), cardiovascular issues, migraines & other headaches, eye strain & disorders, insomnia, anorexia, LWB babies & premie labor, and generalized nausea. These are well documented in the public health literature when there is an ongoing "bad air" state. In the past, there was a theory of disease called Miasmia or "bad air" which went out of favor. Now we are discovering all of the negative impacts that environmental contaminants can have.

Now, I must say that eliminating the 'pond' is NOT the answer for a number of reasons including the fact that it isn't the main source of the smell. Although the pond area surrounding the bridge into SPM city may look like the cause of the problem, it is not likely to be the cause of THIS problem. Indeed, it breeds mosquitos, which can equate to Dengue Fever and Malaria (pond/lagoon/swamp drainage is a common method of dealing with these but destroys major habitat for wetlands creatures), but I refer you to this for the global benefits of ponds:
Ponds Found To Take Up Carbon Like World's Oceans

IF there is open sewage going into the pond/swamp, then yes, it may fester and become rancid awful smelling (it's the methane). However, that would be a more ubiquitous smell that doesn't come and go. We go in and our of SPM daily and some days the smell is like one is sitting in a rotten egg salad factory with overflowing sewers running through, and other times it is barely noticeable. There IS a correlation between the two main factory stacks that are pumping out pollutants into the air. The sugar cane factory is definitely burning of sulfur and that is where the rotten egg smell comes from. I suspect that there is also some illegal dumping (okay--it WOULD be illegal anywhere else) into the swamp and when the moist humid vapors get blown into JD (nightly at around 7 PM when it is cool enough to open up your house and air it). Thus, I believe this to be a multifactoral problem of burning left over sugar, fermenting & rotting sewage=methane, solid waste disposal, humidity and wind.

When the rains come, we get a BRIEF respite until there is ever so slight a breeze this way and then it is worse. I know that our friends who use AC 24/7 haven't the slightest clue that this problem exists. Most of them go from AC homes to AC cars to AC'd offices or stores. For those of us who don't live this way, this is a serious issue that reminds us every night why buying without living someplace is a bad idea. I feel truly sorry for those who are in that position or where the environment became worse after their purchase.
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Where I live near Plaza Oasis. I smell in 14 years never a bad air.
I live near the coming construction from Aquabella.
I think the smell is an combination from the pond and the sugarfactory.
Where I live is more and less 14 kilometers from the pond and the sugarfactory.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:33 PM
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Unhappy Links to pollution impact relevant to JD, SPM's problem

A few other links on health and the environmental issues facing JD, SPM. Not to depress anyone, but be forewarned that reality might make you want a giant bottle of Brugal with this:

Sulfur Dioxide's negative impact:
pollutants.cfm
About Leptosporosis (one DR1 member living in JD was recently hospitalized from this):
Bacterial Slime Helps Cause Serious Disease
WHO Update on Air-quality:
WHO | Use of the air quality guidelines in protecting public health: a global update
Amer Public Health Assoc's view (one research pub):
PUBLIC HEALTH IMPACT OF AIR POLLUTION AND IMPLICATIONS FOR THE ENERGY SYSTEM - Annual Review of Energy and the Environment, 25(1):601 - Abstract
French Study on Air quality & Health
http://www.cababstractsplus.org/goog...No=20033210470
European view:
New Apheis Health Impact Assessment in 26 Cities Shows That Air Pollution Continues To Threaten Public Health in Europe
ScienceDirect - Environmental Research : Review of air pollution and health impacts in Malaysia

Free Radical Link Suggested Between Pollution And Asthma
Solid waste issues:
Potential Health and Environmental Impacts

And, while it isn't in SPM, keep in mind that one of the top most polluted places on the planet is here on the South side of the DR (& the problem still exists--I venture to say that there are many other areas as yet identified in the DR with horrible stories like this one):
The Blacksmith Institute
1. Region: Latin America & Caribbean Country: Dominican Republic
Haina:

Haina, also known as Bajos de Haina, has been referred to as the 'Dominican Chernobyl'. A community near a closed down automobile battery recycling smelter, nearly its entire population shows signs of lead poisoning. Some experts claim that the population of Haina has the highest level of lead contamination in the world. The Dominican Secretary of Environment and Natural Resources, since its creation in 2000, has identified Haina as a national hotspot of significant concern. According to the United Nations, the population of Haina is considered to have the highest level of lead contamination in the world, and its entire population carries indications of lead poisoning.
The Blacksmith Institute

And, for those with economics on their minds...a discussion of externalities:
Technology Assessment / GaBE
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