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  #891  
Old 06-05-2008, 01:31 AM
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And one last thought, half of these so called investments will be back on the market in the next 9 months....
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Old 06-05-2008, 06:04 AM
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Who was the guy that said there was no information or stats that was reliable or had "intergrity"?
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Old 06-05-2008, 08:55 AM
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Thanks Matilda for stating the obvious... I just came back from juan dolio on Monday June 2.. I stayed for 3 nights in costa del sol and it was virually my wife and I....I read about the incredible sales and the vibrance of this diversified community...There was literally nothing happening.. The only restaurant doing any business was El Mason,,which I happen to like...I also stayed at villas del sol,(which is a fantastic place]...I do not understand with the incredible amount of sales happening as stated on this site where is everybody???? How can you ever have an established community and how can merchants exist when nobody is ever there!!!!You can not prosper on constuction workers only...You need the people of the community,and they don't exist....I hate to be negative but Juan Dolio will get worse before it gets better... need to weed out these so called investors.... Euro about to tank.....
On the tourist side it's quite now because it's low season and that's everywhere. Bavaro has a couple of hotels that are closed until November/December!!!
This is normal at this time of the year but the investors are coming and buying.
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:00 AM
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Crowded!!!! You must be joking. There is nobody here. It is a ghost town. When I cam here 8 years ago it was full to bursting, every night was party night. Now we have lost 3 big hotels in this end of town and one, soon to be two at the other end. There isn't a tourist in sight and God knows where the people ar who have bought these new apartments but take it from me they are not here!!!

My colmado is busy but with construction workers. Many of the expats who lived here have gone as they needed tourists to survive and at the moment they don't exist. The two bars here are dead. There is nothing to do but go and chat on DR1!!!!

Matilda
You should be happy that there's construction going on because otherwise you would have had to close the doors.
Off course I'd love to see more tourist here but this takes time and good marketing, Rome wasn't build in one week either!!!!!!
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:43 AM
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You should be happy that there's construction going on because otherwise you would have had to close the doors.
Off course I'd love to see more tourist here but this takes time and good marketing, Rome wasn't build in one week either!!!!!!
There can be no arguing that long term benefits will be felt in the area of Juan Dolio, as eventually things will fill up. However, as opposed to the tourist market that existed here, the demands of the market will depend on alternative local services and entertainment. The tourist does not require the same services as the resident. The tourist is provided most of the services directly from the hotel. However, residents require excellent schools, water services, water treatment, consistent security and policing, area beautification, good roads, restaurants, tailors, laundry, supermarket, and so much much more. I think the frustrations are best directed towards large residential- not touristic- construction on the beach, with less than 150 yards from their land borders developed for commercial reason.
Again, Developers are interested in selling developments- residents who invest and/or purchase in the area are suffering the lack of the other requirements that together make an area interesting for full time living, and which promotes better values on investments made in the area.

The developers have a responsibility to the area to ensure that their projects encompass more than just beach sales. They must invest to ensure that the projects blend and add value to the existing, while advancing all aspects of social living that make a project viable long term and the overall contribution to the area a positive one.

Thats why the Romans built good roads everywhere they went.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:52 AM
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The developers have a responsibility to the area to ensure that their projects encompass more than just beach sales. They must invest to ensure that the projects blend and add value to the existing, while advancing all aspects of social living that make a project viable long term and the overall contribution to the area a positive one.

Thats why the Romans built good roads everywhere they went.
Thank you for this post! Very well stated and very true!
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:53 AM
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You are right Fernandez. The problem is that we are in a chicken and egg situation. No one will open a commercial premises whilst there are no people to use it. And some people do not want to buy in a ghost town. They want the amenities. Obviously there are good bargains to be had now in commercial property but you have to accept that you will not make money for a while.

And I am aware that it is low season - having lived here for 8 years - but IMHO there are less tourists/visitors/residents here this low season than last. That too is the opinion of other business owners here.

And of course I am grateful to the mainly Haitian construction workers who are helping the colmado to keep its head above water, but we do miss the higher spending expats, as opposed to the construction worker who buys bread with mayonnaise (6RD$), a bag of water (2RD$) and a cup of coffee (5RD$) and a cigarette (4RD$)

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Old 06-05-2008, 11:03 AM
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I Do Believe You Would Se More Activity In The Area If The Roads Improved Who Wants To Rent Or Bring Their Car In This Bombed Out Road
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:05 AM
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Also Guarnteed The Answer For No Activity And Ghost Town During High Season Will Be That The Projects Are Not Ready Yet
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:45 AM
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And of course I am grateful to the mainly Haitian construction workers who are helping the colmado to keep its head above water, but we do miss the higher spending expats
The higher spending expats don't buy in a colmado.
They go by car to a supermarket in San Pedro de Macoris.
Perhaps. I hope we get a supermarket here in Juan Dolio with the same prices as in San Pedro de Macoris.
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