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Originally Posted by Rick Snyder
The language is SPANISH !!!
This is directed to tomgallo who in a different post seemed to take offense at the language of Spanish being called Spanish. I didn't want to highjack the other thread so I thought I would start this one so that I might try to set the record straight.
tomgallo said;
As to your equivocal statement that the Spanish language doesn’t exist I offer the following quotes to you from people that in fact are more knowledge then you;
From a professor at the School of English, University of Leeds -
(QUOTE)The official language of Spain is indeed Spanish. It is Spanish (abbreviated as 'es' for 'Español') which represents Spain at the EU ( http://europa.eu.int/). More information is available if you follow the 'Languages' link. The dialect of Spanish which has become the standard variety of Spanish is Castilian.But Spanish is not the ONLY language of Spain, of course. Basque is one of the languages of Spain and it is not related to Spanish at all. A further complexity is that in recent years varieties such as Catalan and Galician, which have at some times been regarded as separate languages, and at others as dialects of Spanish, are currently generally seen as languages in their own right. Catalan and Galician can be seen as dialects of Spanish but most certainly NOT as dialects of Castilian. So Catalan, Galician and Castilian can all be seen as dialects of Spanish, or can be seen as separate languages, which is why some people have taken to calling Standard Spanish 'Castilian'.You may wish to read Clare Mar-Molinero (1997) *The Spanish Speaking World* for an account of this.” |
Another linguist -
Another linguist from Ball State University –
From an Assoc. Professor of Anthropology –
And lastly from the department of linguists at the RAE –
I hope this helps clear your mind on the particular matter.
tomgallo also said;
Merriam Webster says – Latino - 1 : a native or inhabitant of Latin America
2 : a person of Latin-American origin living in the U.S.
Latin - 1 a : of, relating to, or composed in Latin b : ROMANCE
2 : of or relating to Latium or the Latins
3 : of or relating to the part of the Catholic Church that until recently used a Latin rite and forms the patriarchate of the pope
4 : of or relating to the peoples or countries using Romance languages; specifically : of or relating to the peoples or countries of Latin America
Bartleby.com says – Latino - 1. A Latin American. 2. A person of Hispanic, especially Latin-American, descent, often one living in the United States.
Latin -
NOUN: 1a. The Indo-European language of the ancient Latins and Romans and the most important cultural language of western Europe until the end of the 17th century. b. The Latin language and literature from the end of the third century b.c. to the end of the second century a.d. 2a. A member of a Latin people, especially a native or inhabitant of Latin America. b. A Latino or Latina. 3. A native or resident of ancient Latium.
ADJECTIVE: 1. Of, relating to, or composed in Latin: a Latin scholar; Latin verse.2a. Of or relating to ancient Rome, its people, or its culture. b. Of or relating to Latium, its people, or its culture. 3. Of or relating to the languages that developed from Latin, such as Italian, French, Spanish, and Portuguese, or to the peoples that speak them. 4a. Of or relating to the peoples, countries, or cultures of Latin America. b. Of or relating to Latinos or their culture. 5. Of or relating to the Roman Catholic Church.
Doesn’t seem to have anything to do with ancestry with the application of the words (of), (member of), (native of), (inhabitant of) and as a Dominican is a Dominican and a Mexican is a Mexican I think that the definitions above would classify them both as Latinos.
Have a nice Christmas[/quote]
Thanks! You just made my point. Go beyond the "quote" and try to open your mind and make your own interpretation of what you are reading in the context of our topic. By the way do not take as a fact everthing you read.
Look at a UK geographical document and you'll find "the falklands islands" then go to an Argentinian map and you'll see "islas Malvinas"
Napoleon was 100% right when he said They have (________) a shopkeepers mentality.
Spanish = Castillian
Spain is a country similar to Switzerland, Belgium and Canada because it is formed of different nationalities who speak different dialects/languages being the predominant language the "castillian" which translates as you have quoted to "Spanish"
Latin is a language or a dead dud as you may want to described it. Everthing latin originates as I said in my post. We the Spanish/Castillian speaking people of America are fighting the McDonaldzition of our culture for the "convenience sake" of the "anglos" of the North. You can take your Cambridge/Oxford based reference books and shoved. I can quote 15 different Spanish based reference books to contradict must of your quotes.
Anyway, have your 5 minutes of fame on this board and go to bed feeling that someone will propose you as a candidate to the Nobel prize in anything Spanish. Good Luck!!
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