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05-05-2005, 04:00 AM
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The use of "y" and "e"
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Originally Posted by mofi
Lo Siento Chuck, desde ahora voy a escribir en espanol y ingles.
Sorry Chuck, from now one I am going to write in spanish and english.
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Since some want to learn, mofi, the right way to spell what you just wrote is: "Lo siento Chuck.........en espanol "E" ingles. Not "Y" ingles.
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05-05-2005, 10:11 AM
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Hey Miguel, are you sure
I recalled from my high school and college Spanish classes, the conjunction 'and' is 'y' in Spanish but, pronunced 'E'. Then again, that was a looooooooooong time ago and I only took Spanish to meet chicks (usually good looking ones in language classes, so not much time learning). 
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Originally Posted by miguel
Since some want to learn, mofi, the right way to spell what you just wrote is: "Lo siento Chuck.........en espanol "E" ingles. Not "Y" ingles.
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05-05-2005, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by shadInToronto
I recalled from my high school and college Spanish classes, the conjunction 'and' is 'y' in Spanish but, pronunced 'E'. Then again, that was a looooooooooong time ago and I only took Spanish to meet chicks (usually good looking ones in language classes, so not much time learning). |
'y' is the usual word for 'and' but it changes to an 'e' before a word beginning with a vowel, like 'a' and 'an' in English.
e.g.
Chiri e Anna estan hablando español.
Anna y Chiri estan hablando español.
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05-05-2005, 10:48 AM
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Now that you mention it,
I vaguely recalled that but, I was there mostly to meet chicks. This time, however, I am truly interested in learning Spanish.
So Chiri, what are you doing after class today? 
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Originally Posted by Chirimoya
'y' is the usual word for 'and' but it changes to an 'e' before a word beginning with a vowel, like 'a' and 'an' in English.
e.g.
Chiri e Anna estan hablando español.
Anna y Chiri estan hablando español.
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05-05-2005, 10:56 AM
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La flor y nata
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Correction
Chiri,
Actually only before a vowel that has the same sound. In the example by Mofi "español y inglés", "y" and "i" have the same phonetic sound. Therefore to avoid what is called "cacofonía" in Spanish the "i" changes to "e". The same holds true for "o" before "otro" and other words with "o" at the beginning of the word it becomes "u".
LDG.
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Originally Posted by Chirimoya
'y' is the usual word for 'and' but it changes to an 'e' before a word beginning with a vowel, like 'a' and 'an' in English.
e.g.
Chiri e Anna estan hablando español.
Anna y Chiri estan hablando español.
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05-05-2005, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Lesley D
Chiri,
Actually only before a vowel that has the same sound. In the example by Mofi "español y inglés", "y" and "i" have the same phonetic sound. Therefore to avoid what is called "cacofonía" in Spanish the "i" changes to "e". The same holds true for "o" before "otro" and other words with "o" at the beginning of the word it becomes "u".
LDG.
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You get to date shad in toronto then !
Is the 'e Anna' example wrong? I know that my real name, which begins with an I has to be preceded with e. Not the other vowels then. Thanks for clearing that up!
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05-05-2005, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Chirimoya
'y' is the usual word for 'and' but it changes to an 'e' before a word beginning with a vowel, like 'a' and 'an' in English.
e.g.
Chiri e Anna estan hablando español.
Anna y Chiri estan hablando español.
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Is the 'e' pronounced the same as in 'they'?
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05-05-2005, 11:12 AM
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Lesley, did you mean ...
the "y" changes to "e" ...
So just to get it straight, "e" is used when the conjunction precedes a word with the same phonetic sound as "y" (which is pronunced "e") and not all vowels.
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Originally Posted by Lesley D
Chiri,
Therefore to avoid what is called "cacofonía" in Spanish the "i" changes to "e". The same holds true for "o" before "otro" and other words with "o" at the beginning of the word it becomes "u".
LDG.
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05-05-2005, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by shadInToronto
the "y" changes to "e" ...
So just to get it straight, "e" is used when the conjunction precedes a word with the same phonetic sound as "y" (which is pronunced "e") and not all vowels.
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When the word following "Y" starts with the same sound, "Y" changes to "E".
Ex. Stewart e Iris llegaron tarde.
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05-05-2005, 12:19 PM
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La flor y nata
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ShadInToronto,
Yes, that's what I meant. Sorry for the typo.
"y" to "e" if the phonetic sound is the same. Not all vowels.
LDG.
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Originally Posted by shadInToronto
the "y" changes to "e" ...
So just to get it straight, "e" is used when the conjunction precedes a word with the same phonetic sound as "y" (which is pronunced "e") and not all vowels.
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