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Old 01-16-2006, 10:28 AM
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Default J for Jerk. Boca Chica. December.

Trip report, eh? Ok, here goes... Long and uneventful, so read or skip.

I spent a week in the DR in mid-December, for the first time in three years or thereabouts. The trip had two purposes: Firstly to arse around. Second, to catch up with old friends as well as to make new ones. Landed in Puerto Plata, from London. Spent most of my time in Boca Chica/San Pedro de M.,
and a night in Santiago.

What struck me on the way down from PP, and in the first couple of days in
Boca Chica was that it had been a looong time. It took me a bit to get into
the right frame of mind, so those days were soso. I felt bothered by the regular scum, and negotiated poorly. Adjusted fast though.

Boca Chica. Needless to say most of my friends from Calle Duarte had moved
on, hopefully to greater things. I still managed to get my butt whipped in chess though, so the more things change, the more they stayed the same.
That was my general feeling of Boca Chica. A bit quiet, but same old story.
I quite like it that way.

Dolores was alive and as well as one would expect, and that pleased me a lot. More so that she remembered me, but had forgotten all the promises I had made to her previously - esp the bit about marrying her. Others somehow
knew who I was too and that was both nice and convenient.

The fun bit in Boca Chica was that I seemingly annoyed one of the locals so much that he found it worthwhile wanting to kill me. I'm not sure whether to feel scared or honoured that a person actually feels so strongly about me..
He was one of those Haitian/Dominican guys who hang around outside of
restaurants etc there with nothing to do but beg food/beer/money of passing
gringos. Esp. those who are as fat and white as me.. those seemingly most
ripe. I used to have a lot of friends among them 'cos I played football with
them, but that was then, not now. I was fairly open towards him, but I never give something for nothing. However, he soon proved to be a complete jerk.

He had little luck in getting something out of me, and he became increasingly
frustrated as a result. More so as I, as a smartass, tended to respond in kind.
If he had his birthday on Tuesday, I had mine on Wednesday as well as a dying mother. I saw him and doubled - you can't beat a dying mother. Finally
he snapped and got quite aggressive. After all he had gone through, and all
that he had done for me, he had gotten nought but grief in return. How did I dare? After all, he was the "bo(ss)" of BC. That bad eh? Tough luck for Boca
Chica that even the 20 year old bo had to spends his days begging pesos from tourists... When I asked him exactly what he had provided me of food,
drink, accomodation or other, and what I had ever asked of him, he couldn't
put his fingers on what.. Lot of stuff though. The final drop was perhaps
my concilliatory suggestion that he'd give me a BJ for 5 pesos. Apparantly he
wasn't that kind of guy, but it seemed to me that he most definately was.
I figured we could just agree to disagree and part ways as friends, but he didn't go for that. He swore to kill me and that was that. Ye can't win them all, can ye..

Personally I'm ok with such parasites, it's what I'll meet when I travel like I do. I'm also confident that I could have dealt with him had I been forced
to. Still, I don't think Boca Chica or its tourism benefit from having only a
couple of those around. Fair enough, I'm a single, male, gob****e and I don't back off, but few would find these types pleasant company. As it is, I'm not sure if I'd be comfortable with my mother there, for example, though she loves it. Even so, this time my regret was that I didn't challenge him to meet me at the beach at 05.30 the following morning in order to settle our business like men. Obviously I left the same evening, but it would have given
him a great opportunity to enjoy the lovely sunrise in solitude, and to ponder
certain facts of life. I stayed in... Calypso??? 35 USD per night, and ok
value for money. I got what I wanted for a price I was willing to pay, I don't
travel to sit in a hotel room. Somehow I didn't make it to the beach when I
was there.. More people were met, and other stuff happened but it's even
less interesting than the first story.

As my best friends had moved to San Pedro de M., I did so too, after a bit of
tracking. First I stayed in what should be the best hotel in town, Howard Johnson, and then in what was probably the worst. The first was 35 USD, still by far better than Calypso but a bit too sterile for me. The second was.. 7USD or so? Not sterile at all, and I had to take certain precautions with
security, sanitation etc. I loved it, and slept as well as I've ever done.

SP de M. was nice enough, obviously much bigger than BC, and a different
night life. I really enjoyed sitting at the malecon at night, drinking beer and
doing nought. Every ten meter there was a vendor or some sort, selling a
beer or two, pumping out music one louder than the other. Lovely evenings. I did get to know a couple of people, and I spent a lot of time waffling with a kid polishing shoes. These can be a bit dodgy, and his friends sat down next to me when he left. Unlike him, they kept quiet when I tried to talk to them.. Strange I thought.. Why then sit down like that?? Last time I had that, it was with a bunch wanting to rob me.. HANG ON?????????????!!!!!!!!!!! I left and sat down somewhere else. Later my first friend sat down again, and told me his friends wanted to rob me that night, but that he had said no. It made no difference to me as I had already given him my money for his job on my shoes, and I had spent the rest buying him crisps etc.. But he followed me back to H. Johnson just in case. I brought my book and my empty bottle of presidente to be on the safe side.

My family there was doing more or less ok. Extremely hospitable as always, but they had the same worries that I suppose ordinary Dominicans have..
They always offered me food - beans, rice and chicken, and I wanted to return the favour by inviting them all out. I told them that this wouldn't happen often, so they'd better pick the best and most expensive. We somehow ended up on Pollo Vitorino or something, for some serious amounts of beans, rice, and chicken..... That's their way, and who am I to judge?

That family is quite close to me and were recently the first victims of a money transfer from here. I also hope to be able to provide the infrastructure
and the opportunity for the youngest daughter to make it to university, if she's got sufficient drive to succeed. It won't be easy for a girl from a barrio
to overcome all the structural constraints to make it out though..

All good things have an end, and I went home via Santiago and Puerto Plata.
Santiago had a really nice atmosphere I thought, but I could only stay one
night. Hotel Colonial I think, central, 30 USD+, quite ok too for that kind of
money. I got what I needed. If there's a next time I hope to spend more time
there, and get to know that area more. It'd be well worth it.

The coach from Santiago to Puerto Plata had one passenger more than seats, and usually being the odd guy out, I was on the floor. I sat there with
a group of a capella, religious, Haitian singers from a church in Santo Domingo. Great fun, and we had lively discussions in English, French and Spanish on Dominican - Haitian, and religious topics. Neither do I speak the
languages, nor did I know anything about the topics, but right there on the
floor of a Caribe Tours coach to Puerto Plata it all made perfect sense. To this day I wonder how I escaped being the lead in a funky, spontaneous Haitian sing song..

Anyways, that's more than enough. Heartfelt thanks to all those on this
website that helped me in one way or another when I was there. It made it
all the more easier...
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Old 01-16-2006, 12:08 PM
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Bravo!! Arve! Arve!
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Old 01-16-2006, 12:31 PM
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i think i met that hatian dude who wanted to kill you last year while i was in BC. However....i have a few friends who are politur and he learned to stay clear of me.

sounds like you had a good and adventurous time.....i cant wait to get back there in 4 weeks!! My friend and i will be staying in BC wih a couple of nights in S.D. I wanted to perhaps stay in higuey to try to check out parque este....but so far no one has come up with any info for me about this prospect:-(
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Old 01-16-2006, 01:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arve
Trip report, eh? Ok, here goes... Long and uneventful, so read or skip.

The final drop was perhapsmy concilliatory suggestion that he'd give me a BJ for 5 pesos. Apparantly he
wasn't that kind of guy, but it seemed to me that he most definately was.
I figured we could just agree to disagree and part ways as friends, but he didn't go for that. He swore to kill me and that was that. Ye can't win them all, can ye..

I also hope to be able to provide the infrastructure
and the opportunity for the youngest daughter to make it to university, if she's got sufficient drive to succeed. It won't be easy for a girl from a barrio
to overcome all the structural constraints to make it out though..
What in hell do you mean "skip"?. Haven't you noticed that this site, IMO (NOTE: IN MY OPINION), has been dead for a little while and ANYTHING interesting to read is like a breath of fresh AIRE. Your report is such!.

I have learned, during so many trips to the DR, that it's better you ignore those people that beg outside of restaurants. When they became "pain in the axxes" I just let management know about it. Why SOME businesses do not tell them to "move on" it's beyond me. Well, maybe they do but I guess that they keep on coming back. I must say that I am sure that you were just trying to be funny when you told him about the BJ but you have to understand that ABYDODY would had taken offense to it. Oh well, like I said, it's better to just ignore them. Like the old saying goes: "en boca cerra no entra moca".

Another thing: if you can help the youngest daughter make it to the university, do so. It's not that expensive at all, depending on which university. You will learn the true meaning of happiness/pride when she graduates.

Nice report!.
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Old 01-16-2006, 01:21 PM
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reading other peoples' experiences, particularly when they relate to other areas of the island. I hope in the future to venture out a bit further myself. But, first things first. An enjoyable read.
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:10 PM
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This is funny!! "en boca cerra no entra moca".
Should read: "En boca cerrada no entren moscas!" Written like a true Dominican..

I saw this on the back of a bus yesterday: SE VENDE Conto y ruta

Anyone want to translate it?? HEHEHE

HB

Question to OP: Did you have the Presidential Suite at the Colonial? $30 is about $15 too much...
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:23 PM
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Default I see!.

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This is funny!! "en boca cerra no entra moca".
Should read: "En boca cerrada no entren moscas!" Written like a true Dominican..

I saw this on the back of a bus yesterday: SE VENDE Conto y ruta

Anyone want to translate it?? HEHEHE

HB

Question to OP: Did you have the Presidential Suite at the Colonial? $30 is about $15 too much...
Like a true Dominican: "En boca cerra no entra moca". The right way: "En boca cerrada no entran moscas".

Conto is "con todo", meaning "with everything".

Ruta means "route". Was it "Rota", which means "broken"?.

Anyways, back to the topic:

Again, nice report Arve. Anything else that you forgot to mention/write?.
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Old 01-17-2006, 04:10 PM
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That was a great read, thank you! Your Caribe Tours bus ride on the floor with Haitian singers and your long discussion in depth on topics of which you know nil brough a grin to my face.

First, you painted a fabulous picture for your readers.

Second, I recalled being stuck in a Greyhound on Hwy95 near NJ some years ago, for sx hours. Would prefer your Caribe Tours experience. Keep posting! Excellent!
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Old 01-17-2006, 10:34 PM
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nice post. In reference to the people who ask for money , I have always thought( of most..some REALLY NEED THE MONEY) for what?..I see the guy washing my car window has actually done something for me, as for the kid who wants to wash my shoes. But so many kids in santiago asked for money for the sake of asking. Most are pleasant. Soem ( in POP) that asked for 5 pesos , when I was riding my ATV threw garbage at us when we just kept on riding!!! ha ha ha.....

"GIVE ME 5 PESOS" was heard very often on this last trip!.. I have learned to interect now. I always will respond , and ask back or converse somehow...many times its just to say "for what"....I have given money out the car window just because they asked for it, and twice i had to yell out... for them to at least say THANK YOU....I am learning more spanish and those phrases are easy to say...... I gave a few kids in santiago some US quarters...soley thinking it was more of a novelty than money.,.....I got the hand on the elbow again!.....which means I am cheap............many times i just give out certs candy which I always have a few rolls of in my pockets. I love talking to the kids that clean my shoes.. I get the impression when they was grinos shoes they dont converse much....I have to prompt them often.......my gf always gets a kick out of the conversations.....I alkways say something thought provoking for a 10 year old dominican kid to hear ha ha ha........bob
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Old 01-18-2006, 11:13 AM
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Excellent report, Arve. It was quite entertaining and funny too. By the way, I can say hello to Dolores for you when I go to Boca Chica. What name should I use?

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