W5 show on Immigration Canada

kacy · #1 10-24-2009, 11:22 PM

Press like that show definately doesn't help - so sick of people not reading that they sign on for a three year contract for sponsorship and blaming Immigration Canada for not protecting them.... hence making this process harder for the rest of us!

CTV News | Broken Vows: Marrying for immigration, not love

kacy · #2 10-24-2009, 11:25 PM

Just as a note I gave W5 my feedback about how its not easy as their show makes it out to be....

Jess1 · #3 10-24-2009, 11:38 PM

I just finished watching it also!!!! I couldn't believe my eyes!
It's because of things like this segment on W5 that makes it so difficult for people in genuine relationships to bring their spouse to Canada.

Jess

missrnb · #4 10-24-2009, 11:50 PM

I think the lawyer is right, The laws must be changed so the PR is not given untill a certain time.

And I do agree with Kinney, the spouse has a responsability for maring this person...

I sent feedback too.
They should investigate on abusive immigration agents!!!!

Sunflower333 · #5 10-25-2009, 12:36 AM

I also was shocked at some of the things that were shown.

Waiting to get a PR makes alot of sense- a truly genuine couple should have no problem with that and esp. if it helps to weed out the ones just in it to get here.

I agree with Kacy- it IS the sponsoring spouse's responsibility and is made very clear on the form. A person will spend time and effort to prove to Immigration that the marriage is genuine and real and then they want to blame Immigration if it isn't??

kacy · #6 10-25-2009, 12:48 AM

it does and it doesn't - in the US they get there sooner but aren't granted PR until after - however - its a big place to disappear in and still stay in the country and it doesn't mean the fraudsters just won't stick it out until they have PR status....
there is some validity to a longer application process before they get into your country.. but bottom line you'll never stop it all -Also, there's no guarantees in any marriage - many people marry without true intentions inside Canada...

sangria · #7 10-25-2009, 11:05 AM

I think we should follow the UK's process.

The spouse can come fairly easily as long as the sponsor can afford the responsibility.

If the couple is still together and married after 2 years they can get residency. If they break up the applicant has to go back.

Its pretty easy and protects the country and the sponsor.

Also, they grant a lot more visitor visas.

kacy · #8 10-25-2009, 12:24 PM

That's interesting...

not sure how I feel about it - I'm sure the UK system has their issues as well (be interesting to find out how many people end up leaving when asked to - I'm sure some stay anyways) and I've always heard that the canadian process is quite rigorous in that the work is done up front to make sure the bad ones never make it in the country in the first place. I just know that the system is pretty clear as to what your responsibility is as a sponsor - those people made it sound like no one told them that before - and you need to think about what your plan is if it doesn't work out - if you're not up for the what-if then you should likely reconsider being a sponsor. its all the complaints to immigration canada after the fact that results in longer processing times. didn't someone on the forum say the officer actually said she was looking out for them and wasn't their response that they could look out for themselves - well you can't really blame them for taking a harder look at applicants if people don't live up to the bargain.... if we want immigration canada to protect us as sponsors then we really can't complain about the level of scrutiny they put us through. I just think we can't have it both ways.

coco55 · #9 10-25-2009, 12:34 PM

Kacy, yes they have to be harder but keep in mind that their decision has to be profesional not based on feeling like its often the case. We sent over 50 proofs and she admited that she didnt believe what my husband said!!! The agent has to do his job with proofs not personal impresion to protect us.

kacy · #10 10-25-2009, 01:02 PM

Coco55 - I can't comment on your specific case - my point is that the one guy in the show sent in his proof and no interview was required - he now says the immigration system wasn't thorough enough because they didn't even interview him or his wife- and its complaints like that that result in immigration workers being more skeptical - as in perhaps your situation. So he too had 'proof" and the case worker looking at his file said it looks to be genuine. We all submit proof and at the end of the day we do not know what it is that make some successful and some not - only the caseworkers know that. But we can't come down on them for being wary after seeing shows like that - when the first thing people do when it goes wrong is say it was up to immigration canada to protect them. you can bet that after a complaint is made it goes back to the caseworker and perhaps the government says "why weren't you tougher...how did this happen?" So as a result that caseworker is going to think long and hard before approving the next application put in front of them.