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Old 12-23-2008, 02:11 AM
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The President's Xmas pardons list includes Vivian Lubrano of Baninter fame & 4 of the Plan Renove people including Antonio Marte & Pedro Franco Badía. Apparently there are conditions set for pardons like half the sentence to have been completed & exemplary conduct in prison. El Nuevo Diario says neither condition was met in the case of Vivian Lubrano because of course she was in a clinic not a jail.
LF indulta a Vivian Lubrano, y cuatro del Plan Renove
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Old 12-23-2008, 06:16 AM
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What a wonderful thing, Christmas pardons.

It sounds so charitable, and what a perfect cover for releasing cronies and underlings.

Were there any legitimate pardons, such as women locked up for protecting themselves, or anyone sentenced to jail for other dubious reasons?

Interesting information, Lambada.
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Old 12-23-2008, 07:30 AM
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Yes, this is headline news. Huchi Lora and his partner, Nuria Piera resigned from the Pardons Commission because they did not even know these people were going to get pardoned...they were NOT on the original list.
Cronyism at its worst.
Antonio Marte has a multimillion peso fortune..."as a syndicate leader"

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Old 12-23-2008, 07:36 AM
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Wanna bet that Viv aka 'Gold Mercedes Lady' makes a miraculous recovery from her 'illness'?
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:22 AM
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You took the thought right outta my head!!!

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Old 12-23-2008, 11:31 PM
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She'll be dancing her ass off come New Years...another terrible message to the Dominican people, as if they needed one.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:57 PM
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As well as Huchi & Nuria resigning from the Pardons Commission so also have Fray Aristídes Jiménez Richardson & Marisela Vargas. Lots of interesting readers' responses on Clave:
Cuatro miembros de la Comisión de Indultos renuncian en protesta contra decisión de Fernández :: CLAVE digital
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Old 12-24-2008, 05:19 AM
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This is nothing new in Political cycles...

I'm just happy that no hardcore criminals got a "second" chance to commit their crimes to our citizens anew...

If one was to revisit the plan renove and fraud cases in detail, it would be easy to understand that the actual masterminds are not the ones provided the "pardons" but still roaming about as if they were angels...

The DR is only an emerging country with a weak form of "Democracy", one sadly based on another model that continues to provide little backbone in those terms as of lately.

Most people don't even understand that the DR was always an autocracy. Our elections were shams and power was consolidated via military force.

The US continued their "democracy" plan for LA as they did to ensure that control over the radical elements from the Soviets, never made their base there.

If you're really disgusted at the pardons, I would like to know how you would classify this:

• Former Rep. Randall "Duke" Cunningham, Republican from California, who was convicted of receiving bribes.
• Publishing executive Conrad Black, who was found guilty of fraud.
• Former junk bold salesman Michael Milken.
• Former WorldCom CEO Bernard Ebbers, convicted of accounting fraud.

That's just a short of the people granted pardons by the President of the democratic model we follow as an emerging young democracy.

If you were to add all the people pardoned in all those other democracies, like the countries of the EU, Asian, etc... The picture gets even worst...

Like I said, the people receiving the pardons are not the masterminds behind the facts for which they're given the jail sentences. The gov knows this, so too many people that know the actual facts on the matter.

Grating pardons in this period is an exclusive power of the Presidency, anything that the people behind the board today excusing themselves in disgust of not having been inform of any of the pardons, is simply ignorance.

One should be happy that at least some people are getting the chance to spend some time with family and loved ones this xmass.

Pardons seem to be a thing that only Gods should be able to provide from the ideals of men. Everyone deserves a second chance, always that they can contribute positively to our people.

Why not rejoice on pardons being given this xmass?
No matter the political or animosity involved?

A killer was not set free! A drug dealer, a child molester, a robbery expert, etc...

I'm a strong believer of reforming people and having those found guilty of the types of crimes of their sentences, to repay their debt to the citizens of the nation to the last dime. I don't think jail is a place for all crimes, some maybe indeed...

Where's your xmass spirit on having some people that don't represent danger to our kids and fellow Dominicans, receiving a Presidential pardon?

Have some eggnog (sorry!) have some ponche and let us be merry on the holidays!

Merry Xmass to all!!!!
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Old 12-24-2008, 07:31 AM
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The four people you listed have not been granted a pardon at this time.
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Old 12-24-2008, 07:32 AM
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When were the four people you mentioned pardoned by Bush??
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